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Post by anamax »

chaostheory wrote: post #25

I could be wrong, but I believe that Alpharetta is part of the Atlanta metro. It's result should be merged into Atlanta. IMO the results for all Bay Area cities (SF, Palo Alto, Fremont, Cupertino, San Jose, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mtn View) should also be merged into a single result.

> IMO the results for all Bay Area cities (SF, Palo Alto, Fremont, Cupertino, San Jose, Santa Clara, Sunnyvale, Mtn View) should also be merged into a single result.

Why?

The housing prices are very different. Heck, SF alone has a huge price range.

I agree that NYC is too coarse.

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Post by virtuabhi »

dsdawoao wrote: post #31
yummyfajitas wrote: post #18

Some context/theorizing about Edison, NJ. Edison is a largely Indian town. In particular, it attracts many people who don't want personal exposure to the US or non-Indians - such a lifestyle would be difficult anywhere besides Edison or Jersey City. They are only in the US to earn USD. My theory as to why Edison wages are so low: most of the Edison companies are low end bodyshops - if you need a warm body with J2EE,…

Hahaha So true! as an India Grad student who has lived in New York, I totally agree with you, in fact I hated going in that area. I remember there was some controversy when some magazine author wrote an article about it. I actually agreed with him on nearly all points.

Here is that article by Joel Stein http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1999416,00....

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Post by sriramk »

smokinn wrote: post #12
Maven911 wrote: post #3

would you be able to provide the average programmer salary for the biggest visa spenders

If you mean for example the average of all programmers inside Microsoft compared to the average of those on H1B, no I can't since that data isn't public. The H1B database is public and you're required by law to register every H1B hire in it. That's the data source I was looking at. Companies don't typically advertise what salaries they pay employees if they don't have to.

I can tell you that Microsoft (and I'm sure the same holds true for Google and others) paid everyone the same, regardless of their visa process. Your financial package negotiation process was completely separate from your immigration status. Companies like Microsoft and Google sponsors a lot of visas because they try to find the best engineers, wherever they may be and then get them here.

Re: H1B Salaries in the US

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Post by georgieporgie »

ahlatimer wrote: post #35
georgieporgie wrote: post #6

It must really suck to be a senior software engineer making less than 95k knowing that there are probably some new grads that get an initial offer of more than that. Wait, really? By "some" we're talking "very, very few" right? Surely salaries haven't come that far since when I graduated.

As another anecdote, I was offered $115k/yr + $10k relocation from Groupon right out of college (I didn't accept, but that was the highest offer monetarily).

Graduate degree, or undergrad?

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Post by 201studio »

Actually the whole H1B is a problem for a lot of immigrant workers. Some people I worked with at my previous employer were contracted through Patni. Patni employs foreign workers to companies (mainly Indian) and takes a cut of their pay. Once their visa is up(5 years I think) they have to go back to India for at least a year then re-apply. Also, when they sign contracts with Patni, they sign a non compete where they cannot be hired by the company they work for, cutting Patni out.

Its really a sad thing, and although the people I spoke with were happy to have good jobs in America, they were resentful that even if they worked hard, they couldn't get hired on permanently.

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Post by joshz »

shalmanese wrote: post #38

There was another analysis a while back which showed pretty convincingly that the H1B outliers were due to someone fat fingering the salary and inserting another 0.

That's true. There are also several instances where wage rate unit (monthly, weekly, hourly, bi-weekly or yearly) is set lower than it should, like $6k/hour when they mean $6k/month.

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Post by lsc »

liuwei6 wrote: post #15
dmix wrote: post #5

Its interesting how the top H1B companies are IT consultancy companies. There are far too many enterprise I.T. consultants and I'm all for B2B adoption of software. I question how much value these consultants add sometimes. I hear so many stories of failed deployments and spending millions on projects a few competent individuals could of accomplished.

Outsourcing companies have lower salaries on average. Google salary http://www.salarylist.com/company/Google-Salary.htm?order=1 Microsoft salary http://www.salarylist.com/company/Microsoft-Salary.htm?order... vs Wipro http://www.salarylist.com/company/Wipro-Salary.htm?order=1 Accenture http://www.salarylist.com/company/Accenture-Salary.htm?order...

and, generally speaking, lower quality people. The consulting companies seem to love picking up bright, young, attractive people with little experience after college. I mean, one place I worked, accenture snapped up half our team. Now, these were all bright kids; I'd have hired them... in entry level positions.

Re: H1B Salaries in the US

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Post by lsc »

liuwei6 wrote: post #15
dmix wrote: post #5

Its interesting how the top H1B companies are IT consultancy companies. There are far too many enterprise I.T. consultants and I'm all for B2B adoption of software. I question how much value these consultants add sometimes. I hear so many stories of failed deployments and spending millions on projects a few competent individuals could of accomplished.

Outsourcing companies have lower salaries on average. Google salary http://www.salarylist.com/company/Google-Salary.htm?order=1 Microsoft salary http://www.salarylist.com/company/Microsoft-Salary.htm?order... vs Wipro http://www.salarylist.com/company/Wipro-Salary.htm?order=1 Accenture http://www.salarylist.com/company/Accenture-Salary.htm?order...

>Outsourcing companies have lower salaries on average.

and, generally speaking, lower quality people. The consulting companies seem to love picking up bright, young, attractive people with little experience after college. I mean, one place I worked, accenture snapped up half our team. Now, these were all bright kids; I'd have hired them... in entry level positions.

Re: H1B Salaries in the US

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Post by ashayh »

yummyfajitas wrote: post #18

Some context/theorizing about Edison, NJ. Edison is a largely Indian town. In particular, it attracts many people who don't want personal exposure to the US or non-Indians - such a lifestyle would be difficult anywhere besides Edison or Jersey City. They are only in the US to earn USD. My theory as to why Edison wages are so low: most of the Edison companies are low end bodyshops - if you need a warm body with J2EE,…

There are many "training" institutes in places like Edison, where they train you in practically any IT skill for 3 months, fake your resume and get 3-4 other Indians as a reference.

Many of these employees are brought to the US before there is an actual job at a client site. Then they are trained. Many are US college grads, who face going back home empty handed unless they get a H1 visa. Or they end up in Dunkin Donuts.

This is probably the biggest reason why their salaries are low. Because the H1 sponsor has propped up the employee, it is skimming their wages, and can exploit them in other ways, like no holidays, dodgy insurance etc.

Check out some of the training ads here:

http://us.classifieds.sulekha.com/

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Post by cpeterso »

shalmanese wrote: post #38

There was another analysis a while back which showed pretty convincingly that the H1B outliers were due to someone fat fingering the salary and inserting another 0.

I hope that explains the $836,000 software developer at Microsoft and the $1,040,000 consultant at Mantis Technology!
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