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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#351

This anti-Russian trope spreading is infuriating. If Apple and Google can stop their Pay services, of course everything else will be stopped. But that also means I don't want to be on those services either. It is too much power to give to Amazon, Microsoft and Google. I will actively move my own services to solutions that don't act like arms of the US government.

Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. The sooner they understand this, the more country remaining they will have when this will end

Why are Russian citizens without passports any less responsible?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#352

The reverse of this comment probably applies too. Expect Russia to retaliate if this continues to escalate. Banking computers might be hit and the internet might go down. You probably need to have some cash on hand to be able to at least buy food in such a scenario.

That would be an attack, unlike the cessation of cooperation that is currently happening

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Here's my take on this, which you are not going to like one bit. It goes like this... The good people of Russia - and I'm not saying this with a tongue in cheek - the vast majority of the people of Russia truly are GOOD people, in the simplest, most sincere sense of the word... But they do need to go through some things. You just don't get to support a murderous communist regime for 100 years and then say "but we had…

> You just don't get to support a murderous communist regime for 100 years and then say "but we had nothing to do with it". If that argument holds (which I'm not saying it doesn't), then how much more responsible are we who have democracy and tell everyone else how great it is we have a say in how our government operates. Surely, we then hold even more of the blame on issues such as the WMD fiasco. Ironically, ask an…

Good point. Well worth thinking about.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#354

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You really think the only reason that Ukraine won the narrative is that no one listens to Russian lies?

Mostly yes. That's certainly why the Russian narrative won in Russia and Belarus. Propaganda/media is one of the most useful ways to steer a population, it even doesn't have to be particularly good propaganda if its voluminous and exclusive.

>> Mostly yes. That's certainly why the Russian narrative won in Russia and Belarus.

There is no more Belarus as a country. It is Russian puppet state with an appointed governor Lukashenko. Occupied by the Russian army at the moment. Those who were against are either in prisons or fled the country. The country is North Korea basically at the moment. Most of the people (~60%) hate Lukashenko and Putin.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #259

Here's my take on this, which you are not going to like one bit. It goes like this... The good people of Russia - and I'm not saying this with a tongue in cheek - the vast majority of the people of Russia truly are GOOD people, in the simplest, most sincere sense of the word... But they do need to go through some things. You just don't get to support a murderous communist regime for 100 years and then say "but we had…

> You just don't get to support a murderous communist regime for 100 years and then say "but we had nothing to do with it". I'm sorry, but you had everything to do with it. This is easy to say when you have the privilege of living in a rich/developed country with free access to information and where you can increasingly voice your opinion without risking imprisonment or worst. Most people, especially in developing co…

And, you know, good people of US eventually waged a civil war with slave owners. They could perpetually look the other way.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Folks really underestimate how many economic chokepoints there are if the right people feel threatened. I think and hope most Russians know who to blame, but it only takes one person misdirecting their rage to end your life if you're there and look like a target.

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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll point out the obvious: Ukraine is simply too close to home for many of us Europeans - they're our neighbors, colleagues, friends, we vacation in Kiev, they're our football rivals. We broadly share culture, race, etc. Few of those can be said about Iraq which is far away enough to seem some sort of abstract topic. So, having war at home (vs. in a newspaper) is completely novel for us and therefore unacceptable.

So, racism?

Too many people think of Europe in terms of Germany, France, Italy, UK and Spain. There are _many_ countries in Europe who know exactly what it feels like when Russia comes to "liberate" and what it means for the future of these territories.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. The sooner they understand this, the more country remaining they will have when this will end

> Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. How, exactly?

To take action to end it. We are in "unstoppable force vs immovable object" situation. Putin does not have an option to lose. We don't have an option to lose the country once again. These things historically are only resolved by genocide and mass population displacement. Alternative is removing a single person from power.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

#359

How will this affect Jetbrains ?

Jetbrains is Czech. They have lots of Russian developers, but that is an internal matter to them. It won't affect you or my use of Jetbrains products, but it will likely affect how quickly new features and bug fixes are deployed.

> Jetbrains is Czech. They have lots of Russian developers

The company is Czech but the founders and most of the top folks are russian, fwiw.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You think that talking to Hitler is going to stop a war?

Saying "Ukraine will remain neutral and will not join NATO" would have stopped this war. It's an unpopular fact but it's still true.

Pardon my French but this is bullshit. Putin’s perverted logic goes like this - Ukrainian joins NATO, it establish missiles, Moscow in danger. The problem is Ukraine does not have to join NATO to have US missiles on its territory. Basic military agreement would allow that. Such an agreement technically was possible as early as 1992. The fact of life - there is no such agreement, hence whole idea of NATO or US threat to Russia is a propaganda construct.

PS: I’m Russian and I want this war to stop immediately.

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