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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by daminimal »

beebeepka wrote: post #241

I suspect brownish people must feel pretty depressed right now. Seeing how their countries got destroyed with literally zero consequences for the war crimes of the "west". Disasters like this one is exactly what hegemonies lead to. And is Europe racist? Oh yes, we are. The cries against having brown people given asylum came from every corner of society. And now everyone is welcoming our brothers and sisters, as they…

A response late is better than no response. I believe what you are saying is that if some countries were destroyed, others should be as well? Europe protects itself as it considers Ukraine a part of Europe, that's not racist, that's pragmatist.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by fulvioterzapi »

thejackgoode wrote: post #266
freddealmeida wrote: post #222

This anti-Russian trope spreading is infuriating. If Apple and Google can stop their Pay services, of course everything else will be stopped. But that also means I don't want to be on those services either. It is too much power to give to Amazon, Microsoft and Google. I will actively move my own services to solutions that don't act like arms of the US government.

Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict. The sooner they understand this, the more country remaining they will have when this will end

> Every Russian passport holding person is responsible for this conflict.

How, exactly?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by ausudhz »

blablablub wrote: post #269

What are the possibilities for an average russian citizen to leave russia and start over somewhere in the west? How about visas? Does anyone know?

If the airspace of half of the world is closed for Russia how you think they can even fly?

They've sanctions that would even make it impossible for normal people to do a bank transfer in their "new" country.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by ihateolives »

nathias wrote: post #271
redwood wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure I get it: are you saying you do not believe the international community should hold Russia accountable for its murderous incomprehensible actions in Europe?

They aren't holding Russia accountable, they holding Russians accountable and that seems like a terrible thing.

They're not holding Russians accountable, they're hoping that Russians will hold their own government accountable for once. Just, like, for once.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by carstenhag »

MrDisposable wrote: post #142
leolevlev wrote: post #67

Not all services have local replacements, but I strongly recommend storing your backups in the ru segment. In the case of shutting down cloud providers like Google nothing would work fine for several days, and your unstable service – not a main problem for all others. #НетВойне #РоссияНеМолчи

> storing your backups in the ru segment Or locally, on your owh HDD. It's a shame though that the HDD prices will soon become exorbitant, and a NAS would be unreachable for most folks.

In war time you really don't have to backup tons of videos, movies, etc. A 500GB. flash drive or SD card will probably do.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by cuteboy19 »

stefan_ wrote: post #218
darebak wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ukraine has won the narrative in the West because Western countries wanted it that way, it's actually pretty easy to do when you cut out opposing propaganda.

Yes, it was either that or the the dictator of a superpower going on live TV to read off a long prepared "Soviet Union 2.0 manifesto". I wonder which!

Let's not slander the USSR this way. Putin's speech was almost word for word the same as Hitler's Sudetenland speech

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by 5ESS »

skrebe wrote: post #225
5ESS wrote: post #169

Could I (US citizen) get in trouble for providing free VPNs to Russian nationals? Would these Russians get in trouble for using my US based VPN? I want to support Russians during this difficult time but I don’t want them to get in trouble. I disagree with sanctioning and punishing ordinary citizens for the actions of the rich and powerful 1%. Imagine how it feel being a US citizen and getting punished for Donald Trum…

Unfortunately, you're supporting the dictatorship in Russia by providing your services from abroad. Russians understand that the sanctions are going to hit them hard because of Putin's actions and only Russian people can stop him. The change can only happen from within - poor or rich, weak or powerful, everyone in Russia needs to stand up against Putin to stop the war.

The change will occur within much faster if Russians have a safe and secure means to communicate with the outside world. It sounds more like you (and others who support sanctions) are more interested in making Russians suffer as some sort of revenge rather than invoking any kind of meaningful change in their governance.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by xornox »

Ajef wrote: post #114
gnull wrote: post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

In my opinions, the more interesting question is why is the response in this war so fast and comprehensive... and my guess would be that it has the unified political willpower of most western nations behind it. Poland, Germany, France have no interest of seeing Putin succeed at a military show of force less and a days train ride from their borders. When it comes to the middle east and further away places (geographica…

The response is fast because Putin directly said that he is planning to conquer half of free nations in Europe.

All people in eastern Europe fear him and russians. We will do anything to stop the grazy wannabe-Hitler and russians.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by spuz »

astrange wrote: post #69
MrDisposable wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

> The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. I’m not too sure about this. The main problem is there isn’t a new form to replace it with, or a new government to replace Putin with that would act any different - for instance, not constantly assassinating people in Europe with chemical weapons. It does seem like a good time to leave, although an even better time would’ve been before the currency…

My interpretation is that Russia has changed even if Putin withdraws tomorrow and tries to revert things back to where they were a few months ago. The response from the West has been severe enough that it will take years for business relationships to be rebuilt. In that time, Russia would most likely form closer ties with China. This will mean the West will lose any leverage they previously had on their kleptocratic ruling class and things will most likely get even more difficult for ordinary citizens. And that's the most optimistic scenario except for some kind of miraculous uprising against Putin who currently enjoys a majority of support.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by daminimal »

godmode2019 wrote: post #155

I think its very sad normal Russian people are going to be targeted when European countries are still buying oil and gas from Russia 700million a day going straight to the war machine. Europeans pretend to care and sanction everything except for the oil and gas that is funding that war. There should always be a difference between government and people. All these sanctions are harming normal people, essentially econom…

The reason these sanctions are harming normal people is that Europe is driving for a change in Russia that will never happen unless the people blame its own government for the situation.
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