Tell HN: If You Are in Russia • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by ur-whale » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

kragen wrote: post #2

You're absolutely right. Worth mentioning that even though Binance was founded by a Chinese guy and is banned in the US, they're saying they'll cooperate with sanctions. So if your savings are in Binance, maybe move them to a wallet where you hold the keys, not some server overseas.

> maybe move them to a wallet where you hold the keys

Something you should be doing anyways by default, war or no war.

Self-custody is one of the pillar of what makes crypto interesting.

Exchanges, as the name implies is a place where you move your crypto temporarily to perform an exchange. Once that is done, you get your funds out.

If you leave your crypto (or fiat for that matter) on an exchange, what happens next (confiscation, hack, exchange owner runs with the money, etc ...) is the result of you ignoring this basic tenet:

Not your keys, not your coins.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by cuteboy19 » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

Svoka wrote: post #133

VaxWithSex wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually not. It's Putin who is to blame.

Putin is a head of the snake. This wouldn't be possible if not for nationwide support. Protests in Russia are minuscule.

It is not easy to protest anything in Russia

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Cthulhu_ » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

teekert wrote: post #234

kungito wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been multiple active wars in like 1/4 of the world the whole time since ww2 and all the time before that. The only thing different is that Ukraine is closer to EU than the rest of the countries.

Yes I realize it is perhaps hypocritical, but somehow I thought we had figured it out. I mean we (EU and US) also could have done more talking less warmongering. I’m also disappointed with our leaders.

"We" tried talking, "we" didn't do the warmongering, where is that coming from?

Granted, the US did a lot of warmongering in the middle east; I get that they wanted to retaliate after 9/11, but instead of rooting out the ones responsible directly they made up a motive (WOMD in Iraq) and did a full scale invasion there; I'm not saying Iraq was a pleasant, peaceful country or that Hussein was a nice guy, but the US invaded it under false pretenses and dragged other countries into it, eventually leading to the rise of IS and a lot of other things that I only have a superficial knowledge of.

But Europe hasn't done any of that, as far as I'm aware they've held a "live and let live" line since the fall of the USSR.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by ihateolives » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

teekert wrote: post #234

kungito wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been multiple active wars in like 1/4 of the world the whole time since ww2 and all the time before that. The only thing different is that Ukraine is closer to EU than the rest of the countries.

Yes I realize it is perhaps hypocritical, but somehow I thought we had figured it out. I mean we (EU and US) also could have done more talking less warmongering. I’m also disappointed with our leaders.

You do realize that only thing EU and US have done about Russia escalating situations all over the place (Crimea, North Caucasus, Georgia, South Ossetia, Chechnya, Dagestan etc) is talk, talk, talk. Has it helped? Nope. Russia seems to be immune to talking.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by denton-scratch » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

astrange wrote: post #69

MrDisposable wrote: post #37

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> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

> The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. I’m not too sure about this. The main problem is there isn’t a new form to replace it with, or a new government to replace Putin with that would act any different - for instance, not constantly assassinating people in Europe with chemical weapons. It does seem like a good time to leave, although an even better time would’ve been before the currency…

> or a new government to replace Putin with that would act any different

This. I'm tired of the personalisation of the behaviour of the Russian government. Putin didn't launch this war all on his own; he's the head of government, he isn't Napoleon Bonaparte.

I'm uncomfortable about the sanctions regime that is being imposed. If the Russian economy is destroyed the result will be chaos, even if the war ends tomorrow, and Putin is deposed. I don't relish the prospect of political chaos in a country with more nuclear warheads than any other.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by matgessel » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

blablablub wrote: post #269

What are the possibilities for an average russian citizen to leave russia and start over somewhere in the west? How about visas? Does anyone know?

https://old.reddit.com/r/IWantOut/

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by imranhou » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

f-jin wrote: post #182

pishpash wrote: post #147

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So, racism?

not racism, more like discrimination. It's not strange to pay more attention to your neighbor getting shot than some guy in another city getting shot.

Racism = discrimination based on race.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by nosianu » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

teekert wrote: post #234

kungito wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There have been multiple active wars in like 1/4 of the world the whole time since ww2 and all the time before that. The only thing different is that Ukraine is closer to EU than the rest of the countries.

Yes I realize it is perhaps hypocritical, but somehow I thought we had figured it out. I mean we (EU and US) also could have done more talking less warmongering. I’m also disappointed with our leaders.

I don't know. I think you may not have seen much yet. Depending on what happens under climate change, there may be some pretty big and unsolvable conflicts ahead when entire regions are affected.

Overall, assuming the universe has some arrow towards something we arbitrarily defined as "progress" has no rational scientific basis, AFAIK? "Adaptation" we have proven, but that has nothing to do with what we see as progress. Adaptation may very well be less brain, less culture, less humans.

I think if you want to have only certain types of developments and behavior you need to continuously and forever fight against the randomness of the universe, whose forces, have no purpose or direction.

War and aggression never was off the table - it became more organized and carried out by large-group actors. Individual violence is down, it cannot compete with organized humans. Then the nuclear deterrent may have prevented a few invasions. The post WWII peace period in the countries most here (including myself) care about was not that long, and we still had wars even so (Yugoslavia, and at the edges of "Europe" in former Soviet areas).

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Cthulhu_ » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:06 AM UTC

878654Tom wrote: post #273

teekert wrote: post #234

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I realize it is perhaps hypocritical, but somehow I thought we had figured it out. I mean we (EU and US) also could have done more talking less warmongering. I’m also disappointed with our leaders.

You missed the whole period of months of diplomatic communications between EU, China, US, Ukraine and Russia before Russian started the attack. In all those months it seems that only China and the Winter Olympics really did delay the attack.

I heard Russia violated a treaty that prohibited any acts of war for a month or so after the end of the special olympics with this. I don't know the consequences to that, but it's probably trivial compared to international sanctions.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by 5ESS » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 9:07 AM UTC

batushka3 wrote: post #242

5ESS wrote: post #169

Could I (US citizen) get in trouble for providing free VPNs to Russian nationals? Would these Russians get in trouble for using my US based VPN? I want to support Russians during this difficult time but I don’t want them to get in trouble. I disagree with sanctioning and punishing ordinary citizens for the actions of the rich and powerful 1%. Imagine how it feel being a US citizen and getting punished for Donald Trum…

You should get in trouble. Ordinary citizens of russia must finaly get that russia started WAR. Many still don't beleieve it. As mass media shows only BS about freeing Ukraine from fascists, info has to get to them via collapsed currency, economy, denial of services and other alternative means.

I support free speech and access to a free, open, and uncensored internet for everyone on this planet and I wont discriminate based on nationality.