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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by EnOstac6 »

muzani wrote: post #5
BaconPackets wrote: post #3

What do you mean by unable to pay? Would it not just be more expensive? Assuming the banks will convert your transactions when you pay. The Russian banks seem to have stockpiled currency, so I assume they will be able to keep the loop going.

As in they will not legally be allowed to accept payments from Russia. There will probably be usage of VPNs and USD/BTC, but that will also probably not be legal too. And even if it were legal, a lot of people and companies will just not do it. The world plans to make things very difficult for Russia should the war continue. Also I just noticed elsewhere on HN that Namecheap has officially sanctioned Russia themselve…

And this Namecheap sanctions just hit independent students journal DOXA.

Four of its journalists are being trialed right now because of January 2021 protests. They are accused for sharing a motivational video addressed to students not to stay silent.

Yesterday russian censorship started to block DOXA site, because they published anti-war debate manual. They switched their domain then got sanctioned by Namecheap.

It is very hard to host something inside country if you are targeted by censoring.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by darebak »

nickpp wrote: post #102
darebak wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It did not, if you have any international court verdict that says that Serbia conducted a genocide, I would like to see it. Also Serbia was not at war with Slovenia. Those are the basic facts. Now, even if those things were true, they are claimed by the proponents of bombing, enemies if you will, the same way that Putin is claiming there is a genocide of million Ukrainians in Ukraine. Do you believe your enemies?

Motives matter too. Bombing of Serbia was to stop a bellicose regime and the humanitarian crisis it was creating. It was like bombing Russia right now, which I'd support fully hearted, if it was a possibility.

It was not. Serbia was establishing order within its territory when NATO bombed it without any approval from the UN, basically doing something just because they could. Remind you of anyone?

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by VaxWithSex »

dondraper36 wrote: post #75
Svoka wrote: post #19

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What you refer to as "whataboutism" is essentially an attempt to have a more balanced view. All countries are equal, but some are a bit more, right? I agree 100% that awful things done by one country do not justify in any way atrocious actions in another. That said, for some reason most people to decide to pick a side very quickly blaming all the world evil on one person and country. Frankly speaking, the USA, EU, Uk…

Actually not. It's Putin who is to blame.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by Ajef »

gnull wrote: post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

In my opinions, the more interesting question is why is the response in this war so fast and comprehensive... and my guess would be that it has the unified political willpower of most western nations behind it. Poland, Germany, France have no interest of seeing Putin succeed at a military show of force less and a days train ride from their borders.

When it comes to the middle east and further away places (geographically and culturally) the political willpower is often more oriented toward alliance contracts with other nations and idealogical reasoning... not perceived existential threat.

[edit] changed wording (socially -> culturally)

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by nickpp »

darebak wrote: post #95
tverbeure wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also much easier to do when you're not the one doing the invading.

Not really, that doesn't seem to have that much bearing. I still remember Western news about Serbia during the Kosovo conflict where Serbia was doing basically what Ukraine is doing now.

Serbia was an aggressor in the Yugoslavian Wars. Ukraine is just defending from an invasion.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by ammo1662 »

hans_castorp wrote: post #46
namecheapTA wrote: post #23

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A crime committed by one party, doesn't justify a crime committed by another party There is absolutely no justification what Putin (NOT "the Russians" mind you) is doing right now. But to answer your question: yes, I do feel that about US companies as well, and I have avoided them (or services offered by them) where ever possible in the last two decades. But sadly it's way easier to avoid Russian services, than US se…

> But sadly it's way easier to avoid Russian services, than US services. Yes, that's the key. US has already rooted deeply in global economy so no one could sanction it. And Russia is sanctioned for a very long time so it takes this dangerous move to avoid the upcoming death. It's all about money.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by na85 »

MrDisposable wrote: post #37
gnull wrote: post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

> I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision Drastic. Catastrophic. Suicidal. World-changing. The country (Russia) in its current form has just ceased to exist. The entire parasitic elite class just got cut off from everything they stole during all these years. The entire human potential of Russia just got nullified for at lest 20 years. The push towards green energy (and I hope nuclear fusion) just got a…

>It's we Russians who are fucked for the rest of our lives.

Blame Putin.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by darebak »

watwut wrote: post #107
darebak wrote: post #97

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There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Russia is interested in anything other than Ukraine. Everything else is just fear mongering, atleast Slovak media does that well.

Yeah, they have history of being truth-telling peaceful nation, always happy with what they have /s

What does ethnicity have to do with anything?

Nothing even hinted that Russia is interested expanding beyond Ukraine, and not even the whole of Ukraine. So like I've said, it's fear mongering by our politicians to keep people living in fear, it's getting to comical levels now, I get offers for psychological counseling at work due to the Ykrainey situation.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Post by nickpp »

sudosysgen wrote: post #44
gnull wrote: post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Yes, US invasions are comparable, and quite similar. Putin's decision is of scale because Russia isn't a hegemon and is threatening an international order where it's only okay for the US and its allies to do it to countries whose habitants are considered less human.

Putin's allies (the few that are left) are other dictators and madmen. The free world has a duty to protect and fight against them and others like them.
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