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Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by ymolodtsov »

All I can say, Russian people both inside and outside of Russia are feeling the side effects of this. I don't blame Namecheap, been using it for 7 years probably, always had great experience. And had a feeling they were Ukrainians, solely based on the names of support agents. Will be moving my domains today.

I voted against Putin at every election I could participate. I've seen my friends detained and every protest fail.

Obviously, Ukrainians have it much worse. But we also feel stuck between a rock and a hard place. Russian countersanctions to preserve at least some of the economy are hurting us even more than the world sanctions. I've always been a bit skeptical about crypto but now it feels the only to preserve your savings. Flights, visas and immigrations programs are closing down. And even if Putin dies today (I wish), I feel like this "discrimination" will be there to stay.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by sgt »

chaz72 wrote: post #803
sgt wrote: post #782

Is Russia committing war crimes? That is new to me. I know of the invasion and the war, obviously, but I did not know there are war crimes being committed.

Seriously, turn on the news once in a while.

I am watching the news. The ICC is investigating potential war crimes made by Russia at the moment but no substantial proof yet. War is terrible, but there are international definitions of war crimes.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by eps »

This inflicts pain on regular Russian people.

While I understand the need to take a moral stand, this doesn't actually accomplish much. I commented on this before and it bears repeating - the population is heavily brainwashed and many people will view your move as yet another action by the West against the righteous side that they are. Pain, but no reaction.

You want to actually make a difference - keep the service up, let Putin cut it off and let their own regime inflict the very same pain that you are about to inflict. This will net both the pain and a reaction. The way things are going, it will come to exactly that and very soon. They didn't build and test in-country DNS for giggles.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/26/russia-starts-testing-its-...

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by icemelt8 »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by DHK »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

A lot of Russian residents have a relatives in Ukraine. In this terrifying moment you've just added one more headache for them.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by nojonestownpls »

nojonestownpls wrote: post #798

Alternative services mentioned in this thread (I'm merely collecting them to one place, can't vouch for any of their future neutrality or lack thereof): * Cloudflare * Gandi * Njal.la * nic.ru (apparently the Russian state-owned registrar) * "It's time to decentralize." https://ens.domains https://ipfs.io/ * ~~Tucows~~ see below * Hover.com Please add any other that you know of that you have reason to believe would r…

Tucows apparently sent the following to "firms that the company has business ties with". While this doesn't affect customers yet, it does increase the likelihood that they'll place restrictions on customers too in the (near) future.

> We are asking you, and all of our professionals, about your firm’s policy regarding Russian clients, particularly those associated in any way with the current regime. As we imagine you know, most major Russian businesses are either directly or indirectly controlled or associated with the Russian regime.

> As you also likely know, the funds these companies and their principals, let’s just call them oligarchs, siphon off of these businesses are essentially laundered with the active support of major law firms, banks and accounting firms.

> We do not expect you to respond with a firm policy immediately BUT we do expect you to confirm in writing that you have shared this request with your superiors in a way that will most effectively lead to action and we expect you to manage our expectations as to when we may know of your firm’s position.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by schrodingercat_ »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Oh great. Can I put on a star on which "RUSSIAN" will be written in large? So that a white master could immediately identify a second-class person? Did I understand you correctly?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by samstave »

butwhywhyoh wrote: post #332
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

I don't support the Russian invasion, I'm not Russian, and all the other caveats that put me on the "right" side of this. All that to say I am cancelling my Namecheap account and in the future will actively recommend alternatives to your services. Not only is what you're doing completely ineffective, it is likely doing more harm than good to decent people.

Same.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by knl »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

While I agree that we need to put sanctions against bad actors, I see that many of the actions being carried out are either media influenced or could be percieved as PR stunts. Namely, are you asking the same from the people in Saudi Arabia, Israel, and US? Because at the very same time, these countries are bombing other countries and killing the civilians there. We should act the same to all bad actors, not just select few.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by berkes »

causality0 wrote: post #677
lwneal wrote: post #311

I was surprised by this, until I realized that one of Namecheap's offices is in downtown Kharkiv. Today, the Russian military bombed Kharkiv with cluster munitions [1]. Civilians were killed, possibly including children [2]. Given the severity of the situation, I'm surprised that Namecheap has not opted for more drastic measures- for example, redirecting Russian web traffic. Simply transferring Russian businesses to…

Indeed. I would've been sorely tempted to post all Russian customer information including payment details to Ukrainian social media to exploit as they are able. Until this is over I regard every single entity inside the borders of the Russian Federation as persona non grata. Public, private, living or dead. I'm not about to be the guy who postured about legality and politeness when it turns out some of my customers w…

That is a terrible idea. As it will certainly out some NGO's, protesters and opposition who are trying to change Russia from within.
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