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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare?

I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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You might want to check stuff like virtual office service, incorporation in an EU country, they start really cheap, as well as getting a VPS to bounce from. And stuff like Electronic Money Institutes for at least some really basic banking.

Fair warning though, some of these things look rather shady so use some common sense and be careful with your local legislation (See MrDisposables response)

edit: To elaborate on the last part see what happened in Kazakhstan recently. Their outage lasted luckily only shortly but you might not have to think about only western sanction but also Russias distaste for VPNs as well as the possibility for having your internet cut. Sure Kazakhstan is a lot smaller in terms of internet infrastructure, but there didnt seem to have been a way around their shutdown. You are then only left with satellite as well as maybe coverage from the neighboring countries. Both getting really expensive with a devaluing currency and at high threat of sanctions.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Putin launched a war against Ukraine in order to conquer it the traditional sense, ie to replace the existing government with his own government. The long term goal is for Russia to control this country's government.

The wars started by the US typically have the goal of establishing a democratic government. Japan is an example of a successful outcome. Iraq has a functioning democracy now. This policy is often criticized as "nation building." The long term goal is not for the US government to control these countries.

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post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

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Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's interesting. I'm not sure where the technicality resides. If that situation is the case, I assume that it would be quite catastrophic for anyone using non-Russian services for IT.

That is correct. Hence this Tell HN, unfortunately it got flagged.

Still on front page, but grayed

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

I'll point out the obvious: Ukraine is simply too close to home for many of us Europeans - they're our neighbors, colleagues, friends, we vacation in Kiev, they're our football rivals. We broadly share culture, race, etc.

Few of those can be said about Iraq which is far away enough to seem some sort of abstract topic.

So, having war at home (vs. in a newspaper) is completely novel for us and therefore unacceptable.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Fair to compare in what terms?

I think that in this case, multiple nato members think this makes Russia direct threat to them. You know, Poland is possibly next, because Russia always wants Poland. Eastern Germany used to be under Russian control too, what it means to Germans? Estonia probably sees themselves as target too. All satelite previously occupied by Russia republics. Russia is expanding again toward Europe and if Ukraine is easy, other European/NATO countries expect same treatment. If NATO countries further West did nothing, it would be sign that these countries will abandon others again .

Basically, Ukrainians fight for Polish, Slovak and what not freedom too.

Re: Tell HN: If You Are in Russia

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post #11

As a side question, how similar is Putin's war in Ukraine to the numerous wars started by U.S. (say, in the middle East, Yugoslavia)? Are these fair to compare? I'm trying to understand the scale of Putin's decision, not to justify it or engage in whataboutism.

Putin launched a war against Ukraine in order to conquer it the traditional sense, ie to replace the existing government with his own government. The long term goal is for Russia to control this country's government. The wars started by the US typically have the goal of establishing a democratic government. Japan is an example of a successful outcome. Iraq has a functioning democracy now. This policy is often critici…

I would add the US did not unilaterally start the war in Iraq or Yugoslavia and definitely not the one with Japan.

In the case of Japan, the US rebuilt an enemy after they attacked the US without a declaration of war and made them an ally and trading partner.

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