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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by barsonme »

aardshark wrote: post #316
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

I find this action from Namecheap really lazy virtue signalling and your justifications to be hypocritical, for reasons pointed out elsewhere in this thread. If you were really interested in attempting to do the right thing, you would ban on a case-by-case basis, or donate a percentage of your profits to the Red Cross in Ukraine or something. There's no justification for this heavy-handed nonsense. I'll do my best to…

75% of their company is based in Ukraine.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by warner_of_doom »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

You may think that there is an absolute answer to this situation, but there isn't. I recommend that you study commentators and scholars such as: John Mearsheimer, Zbigniew Brezinski, George Friedman, Peter Zeihan, Noam Chomsky, Peter Hitchens, Gonzalo Lira, Tim Marshall, Robert D Kaplan, etc., etc. to gain some insight into the other and more complex side of this story.

I am a proud American -- but, I am convinced that my country started this entire episode and planned to have it be so for a long, long time. 9/11, Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Yemen, etc. just got in their way. Instead of drawing a rational meet-me-in-the-middle red-line with Russia (ex: Poland and the Baltics) that we could live with, we decided to take Ukraine for this ride. We did that. We encouraged Zelensky to talk about acquiring nukes, grabbing Crimea back, grabbing Luhansk and Donestk, joining NATO and the EU, etc. -- instead of encouraging Austria-like neutrality, we promoted our-way-or-the-highway.

And now what are we doing? Fighting to the last Ukrainian? Fighting until they lose even more in a country that has lost ~20% of its population from its peak? We are literally sacrificing their country and encouraging suicide. This. is. just. wrong!

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by someotherperson »

Grim-444 wrote: post #578

Could someone recommend me good alternatives? I'll be moving all of my domains. I will never support any business that decides to go political and start deplatforming/censoring, whether I agree with their views or not.

I moved to Porkbun a while back from Namecheap after Namecheap became the key source of fraudulently registered scam domains on the internet. Namecheap doesn't care to enforce their TOS or the ICANN agreement, which is extremely uncommon. After researching, this is a fact recognised by scammers so it's abused significantly.

Apparently the CEO can take action against regular Russians for being Russians, but don't take down phishing domains registered exclusively for and used in SMS scams because... free speech? That's literally the reason given :-)

When I spoke about it here[0] the replies were quite interesting and relevant to today. At least one of the people who were defending Namecheap then are now supporting their actions against Russia today, which is quite interesting. Actually reading through an older post[1] would be really interesting to contrast with the replies we're seeing in this thread.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22497869

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24508399

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by happybuy »

As a Namecheap customer who has nothing to do with Russia or the Ukraine, this type of selective political censoring rubs me the wrong way.

I don't want to use a utility or service provider who thinks they have some special virtuous ability to evaluate and judge the ethical behaviour or appropriateness of their customers.

If customers are breaking the law or laws are passed that mean that you can't provide service to customers in certain countries or regions, then fine kick them off your service. Otherwise provide the service that you operate.

This type of response makes me less likely to continuing to use Namecheap in the future.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Terry_Roll »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

You should be more informed. You go on about the Russian regime but you know nothing of what your own govt does.

For example, I know the British Govt has greenlighted it for British Military personnel (SAS/SBS/Para's/etc) to resign their commission and go fight in Ukraine.

If they come back their commission will be restored as if nothing happened. Its legal and its been going on for decades.

So I would ask the question, what has backed Putin into a corner and then you might start opening your eyes. Is the NATO expansion the real reason for all this?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by yesbut »

slim109ya wrote: post #486
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

This feels kind of shallow. Much like the BLM support thing, where they would attach a slogan to their website. "Let's get some social points" is what this amounts to. I think businesses need to stay out of politics and social issues. You're, in effect, punishing people who have nothing to do with what the Russian government chose to do.

its called virtue signalling. and it is indeed very shallow. this is going to cost them a handful of customers (that will be individually inconvenienced), but they'll get to launder/profit off this move of putting their foot down towards evil Putin. "That will teach him who's who!"

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Moru »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #187
symbix wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that, and you're totally entitled to do this. And you're probably right that ends justify the means. And, probably, total damage will be worth it. But, in my insignificant personal case, I will be busy moving domains and paying for transfers instead of doing what I've been doing and spending money on what I've been spending it for the last 5 days, helping people detained and/or arrested for participating in ant…

Contact us, we'll make exceptions in cases like this. Thanks for what you are doing.

It's a bit counter productive to shut down the people that is actually trying to help. Then there is only Putins views out there... That is exactly why the west did NOT shut down internet to russia, if we do that, there will be noone speaking against Putin.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by fabrika »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Maybe you should double or triple the prices for Russian clients and send extra to Ukrainian charities or the army. As a Russian customer, I would be sympathetic to this and would be happy to support Ukraine in this way.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by waffleiron »

thrwyoilarticle wrote: post #636
symbix wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that, and you're totally entitled to do this. And you're probably right that ends justify the means. And, probably, total damage will be worth it. But, in my insignificant personal case, I will be busy moving domains and paying for transfers instead of doing what I've been doing and spending money on what I've been spending it for the last 5 days, helping people detained and/or arrested for participating in ant…

>And, you know, those people you want to point at their own government, they won't get it. There are thousands of people 'getting it' being arrested on the streets of Moscow.

Every detained person will not be able to keep their domain, while the ones not busy with activism have the time to transfer them.
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