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Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
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Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#32This is a terrible idea. You might "win the battle", but you'll lose the war.
Winning the war means bringing the other party closer to you, and cutting communication is the opposite of that.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why sanctions are unjust.
You'd rather we bomb them instead?
Maybe punishing the innocent with sanctions is necessary, or the lesser of two evils, but it is still an injustice.
Maybe Putin thinks the injustice being visited upon the people of Ukraine is a necessary evil as well.
But now we're just arguing what evils can be justified, and what cannot.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#34Can Russia do the same? Or can any country do the same? Who has the power here?
The west has disproportionate power here, because ICANN is by and large a western organization, despite its efforts to distance itself from the us government
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This suggestion has several other issues though.
That's why sanctions are unjust.
maybe in some cases but not if the said country is actively engaged in military action. by allowing Putin the resources to wage war the citizens are unwittingly and now that war is raging wittingly complicit.
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#36Big if it is verified to be true, otherwise I'm taking this with some skepticism.
> All of these measures will help users seek for reliable information in alternative domain zones, preventing propaganda and disinformation.
Of course it will. It surely stopped the disinformation and propaganda happening across social media and the wider web didn't it /s
Let's see how far this goes, before the Russians and anti-government cypherpunks realize that blockchain domains like ENS and Handshake (HNS) countering this exist.
Can't wait for all innocent Russians to be banned from Brave, Opera browsers then. /s
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This suggestion has several other issues though.
>The point of sanctions is to be detrimental to average citizens (aka voters) so that they can put pressure on Putin. This presumes fair and open elections
no, it presumes power exists by the grace of popular support, or at least a lack of motivated opposition. this often coincides with but is by no means restricted to elections.
Re: Ukraine Government email to ICANN (requesting shutdown of .ru root DNS servers)
#39Whoa. This is a pretty bad idea.
If the SWIFT blockade is equivalent to disconnecting Russia from the Internet, this is more like ordering banks to simply delete Russian accounts. Not freezing or closing them or even confiscating their balances, but just deleting them.
There are punitive measures that aren't worth the damage they would do to global institutions and infrastructure, regardless of how much pressure they put on Russia. Forking DNS would fall into that category.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's why sanctions are unjust.
You'd rather we bomb them instead?
Bombing comes after you have tried starving them or preventing medical supplies getting in.
If you have further questions about these points please see what happened to the Iraqi women and children (and yes, also men). Great minds and moral leaders like Madeleine Albright[0] will provide you with a shining beacon of purifying truth.
0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Albright#Deaths_by_s...