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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by wetpaws »

sandstrom wrote: post #191
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Look at European and US sanctions, they're way more clever about it: - Aim of sanctions is to turn Russians against Putin. - Obviously, you want to target those that don't already hate Putin (no point in preaching to the choir). - Sanctions should be felt, but should also direct more anger at government than the entity doing sanctions. - For example, sanctioning a hospital or stopping medical supplies into Russia wou…

They don't care about the impact or people, they just want to virtue signal.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by thrwyoilarticle »

akamaka wrote: post #600

This is an extremely big mistake. Not in the sense of politics, but because domain name providers are entrusted by the community to manage a very important and valuable asset. You shouldn’t be making these decisions amongst yourselves and without input from the people and businesses you serve. In fact, there’s a word to describe this type of decision making process, which you might be hearing a lot in the news right…

'The idea that you can somehow remain aloof from and superior to the struggle, while living on food which British sailors have to risk their lives to bring you, is a bourgeois illusion bred of money and security."'

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by gcj »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Are you guys doing the same to US users due to their country's many war crimes?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by [deleted] »

andrepew wrote: post #586
FabHK wrote: post #489

Here my two cents as someone that has visited, lived in, or good friends in authoritarian regimes such as East Germany, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Hong Kong: - in a democracy, the population is responsible for what the government does. Conversely, the more authoritarian the regime, arguably the less culpable the population is. (Of course, people shouldn't have allowed an authoritarian figure to gain power... indeed.…

Whoever is responsible/culpable doesn't matter. Sanctions aren't about punishing the population, they're about inciting a change. A happy population doesn't riot and revolt. You need a miserable population to get something like that to happen.

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by nyolfen »

wheybags wrote: post #327
firekvz wrote: post #244

As a non-russia customer, I am inmediatly moving all of my domains I host at namecheap to another provider. this kind of stuff from private companies are useless, and downvote me all you want, they do not work, and dont come to lecture me from your SF desk while im living in a sanctioned country, how did the 2017-2019 sactions for Venezuela worked? Everyone in the world moved on and even forgot about our country, and…

You inadvertently argued against your own point. Your friend's startup died, that damages the economy, that is what economic sanctions are designed to do. Whether the specific instance of sanctioning was justified is another matter of course, but the point is that the economy was damaged. That hurts ordinary people yes, but - this is a war. Better an economic hit than being bombed or shot.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/docindex/v1...

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by 5e92cb50239222b »

jollybean wrote: post #675
FabHK wrote: post #489

Here my two cents as someone that has visited, lived in, or good friends in authoritarian regimes such as East Germany, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Hong Kong: - in a democracy, the population is responsible for what the government does. Conversely, the more authoritarian the regime, arguably the less culpable the population is. (Of course, people shouldn't have allowed an authoritarian figure to gain power... indeed.…

Those are good points, but I don't quite agree because there's a few things to add to the list: - Putin's popularity jumped up during the invasion to 69% - which is a lot. - Only 5% of Russians believe that Russia is responsible for the incursion, while 50% believe that the problem is NATO (I understand at least part of this is due to heavy propaganda) - While the choice for war is a bit ambiguous and probably errs o…

> While the sanctions might form a bit of a blip in the Ruble, it's not going to affect most people's lives particularly dramatically, it may just slow the economy down in largely imperceptible ways to the general population

Every Russian economist I'm reading is in mourning (you can see it in their faces) and is promising a severe commodity deficiency and high prices on consumer goods in the near future.

I think they expect something like the beginning of the 90s, but even more severe, close to zero outside help, and low chances for recovery.

All of my Russian friends have been in panic since the 24th. I am too, honestly, I have already lost 25% of my income (which was not very high even before) for not doing anything wrong and just being close to Russia.

(I support Ukraine and the Western response, but we'll be collateral damage nevertheless.)

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by gpm »

hereforphone wrote: post #134
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Would you give me a list of "wrong" things I shouldn't do, or "wrong" places I shouldn't live, in order to not have my service terminated in the future? I live in Turkey sometimes. Am I in danger of losing my Namecheap account if Erdoğan (the dictator) does something even more crazy than usual, in the future?

It seems clear that the answer is you are in danger of losing much more than a domain if Erdogan does something crazy. You're in danger of losing your ability to do business with other countries at all. You're in danger of being conscripted into the army and sent to your death (or dying resisting said conscription orders). Hell, you're in danger of the crazy thing just being Erdogan deciding to sentence you to death for a made up crime.

To some degree there are just inevitable risks in life, but it's absolutely in your interest to influence your government into doing as few terrible things as possible, and to move to one that does less terrible things, and I for one think that's a very good thing.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by qiskit »

decebalus1 wrote: post #549
qiskit wrote: post #303

> Unfortunately, due to the Russian regime's war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine Just to clarify, does your policy only apply to russians and their war crimes and human rights violations against ukraine specifically or is it a blanket policy? Will you refuse to register users from say the UK or France for their war crimes and human rights violations? Or say israel or saudi arabia? Or china or the US? I…

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> the company has 1700 employees in Ukraine.

Fine. Then say so. Nowhere in his original post did he mention that. Instead he talked about human rights and war crimes.

Another comment from your CEO: "We've always had a policy that almost anything goes excluding human rights abuses and especially war crimes and supporting violence. Nothing changed here."

Apparently, there is a policy about human rights and war crimes. Well then can you have him answer my question. Now that we cleared things up. Thanks.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by ComradePhil »

firekvz wrote: post #244

As a non-russia customer, I am inmediatly moving all of my domains I host at namecheap to another provider. this kind of stuff from private companies are useless, and downvote me all you want, they do not work, and dont come to lecture me from your SF desk while im living in a sanctioned country, how did the 2017-2019 sactions for Venezuela worked? Everyone in the world moved on and even forgot about our country, and…

These idiots are doing it so that they get free publicity for doing stupid shit like this.

I will be moving my domains to epik.com

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