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Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by geraldalewis »

kragen wrote: post #39

What the fuck, this has to be a parody: Be Safe AFTER Immediately after you are inside shelter, if you may have been outside after the fallout arrived. ... Engage virtually with your community through video and phone calls. Know that it’s normal to feel anxious or stressed. Take care of your body and talk to someone if you are feeling upset. Many people may already feel fear and anxiety about the coronavirus 2019 (CO…

Being scared/stressed/panicked by a nuclear attack during a pandemic is reasonable. Trying to be conscious about taking care of your mental health during a traumatic event is hard to do, but it’s important. Some people need to be reminded of that. That’s fine.

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by throwawaylinux »

geraldalewis wrote: post #46

The comments here are silly. You can absolutely prioritize your risks, which means you’re not precluded from taking sensible precautions if you’re able to. This isn’t rock/paper/scissors. If you’re far enough away from the point of impact and the winds are right, Covid might be more of a threat than a nuclear bomb. If you’re two states away from where a bomb goes off, and insist on open-mouth kissing strangers as the…

No, what's silly is filling people's heads with rubbish about COVID in case of a nuclear disaster or other acute emergency.

Hand sanitizer is absolutely not the right thing to be concerned with. Masks perhaps, but not for COVID.

Storing clean water, minimizing your perishable food waste, securing your house/shelter and making makeshift repairs to damage, using a radio (e.g., from your car) to listen for information, etc., keeping a basic first aid kit around and understand basic wound management, are all far more important.

Social distancing because of covid comes in at around number 32,238 of things to worry about.

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by kragen »

geraldalewis wrote: post #101
kragen wrote: post #39

What the fuck, this has to be a parody: Be Safe AFTER Immediately after you are inside shelter, if you may have been outside after the fallout arrived. ... Engage virtually with your community through video and phone calls. Know that it’s normal to feel anxious or stressed. Take care of your body and talk to someone if you are feeling upset. Many people may already feel fear and anxiety about the coronavirus 2019 (CO…

Being scared/stressed/panicked by a nuclear attack during a pandemic is reasonable. Trying to be conscious about taking care of your mental health during a traumatic event is hard to do, but it’s important. Some people need to be reminded of that. That’s fine.

Yeah, that part is fine.

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by whatshisface »

zionic wrote: post #70
throwawaylinux wrote: post #9

If you have just survived a nuclear explosion and find yourself in need of assistance, call 911 and be sure to let the operator know if you have or believe you may have COVID-19. Absolute insanity.

Personally, a government that takes 50%+ of my income producing this kind of garbage-level content scares me more than COVID ever did. What the fuck am I/are we paying for?

Hey, they're also producing the nuclear weapons. :)

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by esrauch »

zionic wrote: post #70
throwawaylinux wrote: post #9

If you have just survived a nuclear explosion and find yourself in need of assistance, call 911 and be sure to let the operator know if you have or believe you may have COVID-19. Absolute insanity.

Personally, a government that takes 50%+ of my income producing this kind of garbage-level content scares me more than COVID ever did. What the fuck am I/are we paying for?

The maximum tax bracket is 37%

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by mauvehaus »

geraldalewis wrote: post #46

The comments here are silly. You can absolutely prioritize your risks, which means you’re not precluded from taking sensible precautions if you’re able to. This isn’t rock/paper/scissors. If you’re far enough away from the point of impact and the winds are right, Covid might be more of a threat than a nuclear bomb. If you’re two states away from where a bomb goes off, and insist on open-mouth kissing strangers as the…

> If you’re two states away from where a bomb goes off...

Spoken like someone who isn't from Rhode Island.

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by asdff »

wanderer_ wrote: post #47
tshaddox wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How are you going to survive in the woods? In many places and times of year this would be very difficult for all but the most intensely prepared or experienced people. And is it even good advice?

I am rather experienced. Eagle scout, that sort of thing. Maybe I should have been more clear: That wasn't advice, just what I think I would do.

It's one thing to be able to go camping. Long term survival is going to be a lot more challenging, and you won't be the only person taking to the woods looking for resources.

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by phdelightful »

If we are envisioning a single “nuclear explosion” (not a large nuclear attack), then this advice is not as crazy as it might seem. Think terrorism, or accident. If you survive the initial event, and the rest of the country is immediately in a position to render aid, then your objective is just to stay healthy and safe for the 1-4 days it would take to start getting things sorted out. In that scenario, access to clean water, first aid, and not getting covid actually seem like reasonable things to worry about.

There’s not really any good advice in a MAD scenario. Only a tiny faction of people would be able to set out for the wilderness and survive. The vast majority will die of exposure of one kind or another regardless of how much prepping they do.

Re: Updated rules on preparedness for nuclear explosion

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Post by toast0 »

chias wrote: post #54
tshaddox wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Note that this is not a direct quote. That bit about COVID-19 appears in a big paragraph about what to do if you’re sick or injured. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s a shared boilerplate across lots of government websites about emergencies. This whole page mentions COVID-19 a few times but really isn’t as ludicrous or reminiscent of satire as people here are making it out to be.

I expect you're right. I think a number of these sections were copied from a similar page on COVID-19, e.g. in the section about preparing early, it refers to the emergency as a pandemic: > Remember that not everyone can afford to respond by stocking up on necessities. For those who can afford it, making essential purchases and slowly building up supplies in advance will allow for longer time periods between shopping…

There's also this one talking about a flood under Prepare Now:

> If you are able to, set aside items like soap, hand sanitizer that contains at least 60 percent alcohol, disinfecting wipes, and general household cleaning supplies that you can use to disinfect surfaces you touch regularly. After a flood, you may not have access to these supplies for days or even weeks. Keep in mind each person’s specific needs, including medication.

Most likely this was prepared quickly by pulling content from other preparedness pages. (which is really ok, a lot of preparedness works for most emergencies, although some more editing would be nice)

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