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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by zapataband1 »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq Again, Yemen, Vietnam, Bolivia. The list goes on. If you will not support Russia's imperialism, how will your conscience hold against US Imperialism?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by robryan »

hereforphone wrote: post #133

If they're willing to terminate service for political reasons in this case, who's to say they won't do it in the future for other political reasons? Here begins the slippery slope of Namecheap terminating service to those it deems "wrong". Been a happy, confident Namecheap user for a long time. Now I'm not so confident.

If Australia invades New Zealand I am happy for them to cut me off.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by elliekelly »

tguvot wrote: post #40

Given that Russian vodka is blacklisted from stores in USA (and Finland!) and replaced with message "we stand with Ukraine", it's not really surprising. I read interview with somebody from Russia yesterday, russian tracks getting their tires punctured in EU and get stuck because credit cards don't work anymore. Ships refuse to offload goods in Russian ports and drop them of "wherever in Europe". Russian companies can…

Putin has really been playing up the West’s “Russophobia” leading up to the invasion and I worry that social media has caused some of these “sanctions” to get out of hand really quickly with everyone piling on to the point some of the actions are, indeed, Russophobic. Cutting off service for Russian people who aren’t even living in Russia seems like it crosses that line to me.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by mandaman »

decebalus1 wrote: post #549
qiskit wrote: post #303

> Unfortunately, due to the Russian regime's war crimes and human rights violations in Ukraine Just to clarify, does your policy only apply to russians and their war crimes and human rights violations against ukraine specifically or is it a blanket policy? Will you refuse to register users from say the UK or France for their war crimes and human rights violations? Or say israel or saudi arabia? Or china or the US? I…

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by jacktribe »

kvathupo wrote: post #564
jacktribe wrote: post #388

I am completely in support of this. Hopefully the Russian people understand that these types of measures are not taken because we are trying to exact revenge on them as a people. This is our way to motivate you, to encourage you to go out in major cities and protest by the millions. More so than any other profession, we in tech are often shielded from major events happening in the outside world (see pandemic). We nee…

As this comment ([1]) demonstrates, I caution you against thinking it's safe to protest in Russia. We are truly privileged to live in a country where dissent doesn't result in being poisoned. Empathy goes a long way towards building a better world. [1] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30506143

We know it's unsafe, we see the videos of peaceful protestors getting arrested. We knew all of this before the current conflict. And I completely agree with you that we are privileged to have these freedoms.

The ugly reality is that regime change will not happen in Russia without bloodshed, and currently the bloodshed is happening in a country that was unfortunate enough to border Russia.

The war in Ukraine is egregious and refusing to assume the risk as a Russian person is almost akin to saying "better them than us".

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by zapataband1 »

exizt88 wrote: post #65
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> People that are getting angry need to point that at the cause, their own government. Believe me, I'm very angry at my government. Unlike you, I've been protesting the regime for several years, putting my health and well-being at risk. I've donated thousands of dollars to anti-regime organizations. And I'm currently in the process of fleeing the country because of this. So I'm also very angry at you, for screwing me…

The list of countries that the US has invaded is so deep. We must have solidarity with each-other and hold sociopathic leaders accountable, the way current sanctions are being structured is imo targetting civilians much more than russian elite or oligarchs. I wish nothing but peace for Russian and Ukrainian people, good luck friend.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Svettie »

gip wrote: post #547
FabHK wrote: post #489

Here my two cents as someone that has visited, lived in, or good friends in authoritarian regimes such as East Germany, Russia, North Korea, Iran, Hong Kong: - in a democracy, the population is responsible for what the government does. Conversely, the more authoritarian the regime, arguably the less culpable the population is. (Of course, people shouldn't have allowed an authoritarian figure to gain power... indeed.…

I have no problem making life harder for Russians, having them cancel their holiday in Turkey, wait in line a bit, move to a new VPN. Maybe that will make some realize that something is wrong with their entire government and they need to revolt and change that fast. This after Aleppo and the rest. I think that the government of a country is a lagging metric of the value of its people.

I just don't think human psychology works this way. Your attitude is akin to a parent's with a child, "your actions have consequences, so do better". But Russia's parent in this analogy is Putin, and he will use such things to his advantage. Your approach might feel just, but the message will be completely lost.

You will note how many Western governments over the past few days have been saying explicitly: "These sanctions are not meant at the Russian people, we see that they did not want this war". It doesn't seem like this is even true from polling, but it's calculated messaging, and it's important.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by alsetmusic »

hibern8 wrote: post #604
jkadlec wrote: post #478

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So why didn’t they take this action against US citizens when the US government attacked Iraq?

> So why didn’t they take this action against US citizens when the US government attacked Iraq?

Because silly, Iraq had WMDs. /s

This reminds me of someone at my office who tinted his Slack avatar with the colors of the Ukrainian flag. It’s a meaningless, empty gesture. Why didn’t he have Palestinian colors last summer or the Afghan flag for the last two decades?

Frankly, this is punishment of ordinary people who have no say in what their country does (plus maybe some monsters who run the state, but with collateral damage) as a form of virtue signaling. If my DNS was shut down for crimes the US committed despite my objection I would feel very mistreated. The intent may be noble, but it doesn’t feel helpful.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by zapataband1 »

Russian wrote: post #250
risyachka wrote: post #184

I will respond to this one. It's good that you tried to fight the regime. Clearly it wasn't enough. You live in society, not in the woods. The majority decides how all live - like in any other country. In your country majority decided not to overthrow dictatorship. As result, minority suffers. So here is your answer.

Most of people here has no any experience of fighting against even a soft authoritarian regime. You just don't have a clue how it looks like where the police officers beat you in the chamber in the night and you are screaming and nobody help you, they torture you putting a bottle in your anus and smashing your teeth. It's completely immoral to blame people they are fighting not enough, you don't know NOTHING about it…

Good @Russian, I wish nothing but peace for Russians and Ukrainians. We must stand together against our autocratic profit and war-driven regimes. Especially here in the US.
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