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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by awb »

sandstrom wrote: post #136
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Are you sure this will help your objective? Putin is a maniac and his war is horrible. But as you've probably seen from all the 'prisoners of war' videos out of Ukraine, most soldiers don't want to fight this war. Russians that are savvy enough to setup their own domain, will also be the ones that use a VPN to read foreign news. Very few in the Russian "tech scene" like Putin. Shutting down their means of communicati…

> But as you've probably seen from all the 'prisoners of war' videos out of Ukraine, most soldiers don't want to fight this war.

Most soldiers? How many remorseful POWs have you seen vs. the ~200k soldiers actively participating in the war?

Some POWs will say almost anything to not get killed and have a chance at freedom again. Just like in a trial, a statement or confession made under duress is not valid and they’re likely under extreme duress and afraid for their lives.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by tasha0663 »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> People that are getting angry need to point that at the cause, their own government.

This is correct, but your actions are going to silence (or at least muffle or interrupt) these people's voices. Don't double down on it because you're riding some righteousness high. You still have time to backpedal and not act like a vain fool.

The tax dollars you are talking about are pennies to the oligarchs. You are only hitting regular people with this selfishness. It's a pathetic gesture, and I'll never use your services.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by jacktribe »

virtualwhys wrote: post #438
jacktribe wrote: post #364

Yes, it's all very unfortunate that you have some additional work to do. In all seriousness, you need to take a step back and realize that this is a minimal price that we all have to pay, that includes those of us in the western world, to enjoy the freedoms that we have every day. The current events have a negative impact on the entire world, and it's already bad enough that we have let it get this far and a country…

Additional work? In the west I think we need to realize that the situation is extremely unfortunate for Russians that are victims of the dictatorship (vs. those that actually believe in the party line), who have no easy way out of the country, and are absolutely screwed ATM. Obviously worlds better than being under fire in the Ukraine, but I wouldn't throw the average Russian in the "minimal price we all have to pay"…

Yes, they do have to pay a higher price, because the problem stems from there and they now have a small window opportunity for a regime change.

They are at a point where they can reach critical mass. If we don't push enough this can be dragged out to a North Korea like status, and that is going to be a lot worse for everyone.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by SirensOfTitan »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

This is gross. People aren't their governments, did you cancel US domain registrations when the US government invaded Iraq?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by ritcgab »

I cannot see the goal of this move. Those Russian users will move to other platforms and those platforms will still pay taxes on their Russian sales - which in turn helps authoritarian government. What is the difference?

Or is it just because it is harder for Russian users to make payments?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by crossroadsguy »

atlantas wrote: post #77
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Should Chinese residents be concerned?

Just keep looking out for when they attack a western/white majority country. Then, yes.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by justsomehnguy »

I guess Namecheap is on my list of opinionated companies ie they are in notallowedlist now.

Also some things to think about:

People who don't have access to their e-mail right now wouldn't even know they would be "asked to move". In the 21st century this probably means people who can't read the e-mail are in the hospital, e.g. after a traffic accident or on a ventilator with COVID. Imagine going to coma/whatever around Feb 15, recover somewhat in the first weeks of March to encounter all your digital life was wiped from the Internet (despite being paid on time).

People who hosted their e-mail on a domain hosted on Namecheap would lose the ability to receive the e-mails (if for any reason wouldn't make it in time), which could greatly complicate the whole moving process. Giving the NamecheapCEO gave only 5 day to move out this is pretty contradicts their "please kindly fuc^W get out".

Given the majority of Namecheap support is located in Ukraine I highly doubt all these "[Russians,] contact us, we'll make exceptions" would go well.

And finally, riding a high horse is always good, but I doubt NamecheapCEO paid 1700 Ukrainian employees the same salary he would paid to 1700 US employees. Sure, this is not "Don't cut in my profits", but while the horse is high - it stinks.

EDIT: oh, and I really want them to publish the stats on how many people moved the domains from them in the next week, with at least Russia/non-Russia owned break-up.

But something tells me we wont see that.

EDIT2: Ha! To add insult to injury the guy could be literally locked up for actively participating in protests against the war![0]

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30505604

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