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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#451

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Are you sure this will help your objective? Putin is a maniac and his war is horrible. But as you've probably seen from all the 'prisoners of war' videos out of Ukraine, most soldiers don't want to fight this war. Russians that are savvy enough to setup their own domain, will also be the ones that use a VPN to read foreign news. Very few in the Russian "tech scene" like Putin. Shutting down their means of communicati…

> But as you've probably seen from all the 'prisoners of war' videos out of Ukraine, most soldiers don't want to fight this war.

You should not believe them. They might be just lying.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#452

Completely understandable, within their rights, and highly symbolic. With so many Ukranian employees, what else would the CEO do? Sadly, though, it's just another punitive act that will hurt more people than it will help. Not clear that doing something is always better than doing nothing, even in war. Whatever you do should make things better. If not, keep thinking about what you can do that will actually make a posi…

Understandable yes. But within their rights? I doubt so. Contracts are binding for both parties (client and the company). What they are doing here is an intentional breach of contract. Depending on the jurisdiction it can have nasty legal ramifications.

Thanks. Didn't know that. Just assumed that most tech companies' TOS includes a line reserving the right to terminate service at their sole discretion.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#453

It may interest you to know that Namecheap, just a few days ago, banned a few domain names purely based on an ambiguous tweet that got 8 likes , that didn't even ask for those domains to be banned or cite any ToS violation. https://twitter.com/Namecheap/status/1489485337885921284 Namecheap then reverted that decision when they got ratioed (with no tweets supporting their decision). I've never heard of these domain na…

There are hundreds of cases like this. Namecheap is by far the worst registrar I've had the displeasure of using.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#454

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Pathetic.

I've been setting up infrastructure to do blockade running over the obviously coming great Russian firewall for the last few days and made a mistake of relying on your service. I did expect payment troubles. I did not expect you to help the Kremlin in isolating the Russian populace from uncensored news and communication platforms beyond its reach. Right now my grandparents are going to have greater problem finding news about the war from any other source beyond Putin-controlled bullshit faucets, and so will I. It's likely also the case for antiwar protesters.

Isolating Russian users from foreign internet services is literally the Kremlin's dream, something it could not achieve for a long time even with all the power amassed over the years. It's revolting to see Namecheap and others doing Putin's job for him, while claiming to stand up against his war crimes. And spare me the "tax dollar" spiel. The overwhelming revenue going towards the war comes from oil and gas exports (even more so with the currency crisis), something that is explicitly not being sanctioned - less the Western tech executives are inconvenienced.

If you're going to harm people because of their country of birth to feel better about yourself - say it straight. What you're doing right now will not help a single Ukrainian, and will make Putin more resilient, not less.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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But such moves only shows the unreliability of businesses that preach net neutrality and similar things and in fact discriminate based on ethnicity. So they show that Putin is right, that democracy and liberalism are dead, that Ukrainians are nazi, and rally people around him even more.

We've always had a policy that almost anything goes excluding human rights abuses and especially war crimes and supporting violence. Nothing changed here.

I imagine the conversation today went something like:

> NamecheapCEO: "What % of our business comes from Russia?"

> Accountant: "It's marginal."

> NamecheapCEO: "Cool. I have a great idea to get some spotlight."

Am I far off?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#456

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Just thinking out loud about this...

I am a business owner that sells services worldwide. We've just checked and found that a non-trivial number of our customers are registered in Russia. I don't feel comfortable with our company receiving their money.

I am appalled and horrified by the invasion and I wish to make this right some how. I just don't know what to do here as the leader. I've had relationships with some of these clients for years, and I know them to be good people. (Others, not so much - they will be easy to lose.)

The other thing is - and I'm ashamed to say this - I have a lot of fear about being drawn into the spotlight by publicly removing customers in the way that you have. We are a well-known data provider in our industry with clients all over the world, and I personally rely on this business for my livelihood. As I said, I feel ashamed and guilty about this, but I just don't feel brave enough to take a stand like you have. That said, I do want to set this right.

So I wonder what can be done?

- We can close the website to new visitors from Russia, and prevent new paying registrations, as an immediate first step.

- We can make a donation to the defence and rebuilding of Ukraine, covering the entire amount of revenue we received from Russian companies in the past year.

- We can contact paying clients located in Russia, informing them that their service is being terminated at our discretion, as we are no longer able to serve clients in Russia. We'll have to check our T&Cs for termination as there may be a 30 day cooldown, but we can certainly immediately stop their payments.

I know this isn't even a half-measure and I feel terrible about that. I'm just too afraid of having a target upon me or my company right now. I will just do what I can because it feels right.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#457
post #149

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Everything about this screams immaturity. You didn't think about this, how it would affect others, whether or not it would actually improve anything for anyone, etc. This doesn't affect the Russian government in any way whatsoever. You are not making a difference, not a positive one anyway. You're acting purely based on spite, attacking mostly innocent people in any way you can purely because they are living under a…

Best comment so far. The mail ia indeed immature and the actions are unproductive.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#458

I am frankly shocked and dismayed at the number of people deriding this decision. In a grey world this seems like such a black and white thing. Sure it may inconvenience a few, but on the other hand innocents are being slaughtered. All the weight of these complaints don't even begin to touch the scale when compared to literal children being murdered. Besides all that, Namecheap is a private company and can do busines…

I understand namecheap's decision because they have coworkers in Ukraine.

However, unless you apply that same logic to the US, UK, and a host of other nations, you are being hypocritical. They have murdered so many civilians, including kids, that surely they deserve the same punishment.

Yet we both know we're not about to see that, and I think we know why.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#459

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

i’ve been a namecheap customer for a long time (10+ years). i do not think you are making the right choice. you are punishing the wrong people. you are sending a message that selecting namecheap isn’t just choosing a hosting platform but also a making political alignments. you say you’re doing this because you want nothing to do with the war, but by making this change you are involving yourself even more with the war

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

#460

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Before I respond to you about domain names, is there anything we can do to help your team's families get out? Do you have a fund? Are there refugee organizations you're in contact with?

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> If more grace time is necessary for some to move, we will provide it.

Why not 14 or 30 days? I've moved domains before (many years ago) and I think it took > 10 days depending on lots of factors, complications, and even had to cut support tickets, etc.. So I'd hate to see an innocent Russian freelancer get punished by this, if they missed your notification and had to move in a hurry.

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