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Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by throwaway5848 »

dymk wrote: post #389
jchiu1106 wrote: post #306

This is a terrible move. Virtue signaling at it's worst. Putin literally gives p 0 f'ck about namecheap. It doesn't do squat to him but meanwhile you're hurting regular Russian users for something they have no control over. Do you think they will be pressuring Putin to stop the war bc they can't use namecheap anymore? They will likely to be more mad at the west. Lastly, doing this is just going to increase the segreg…

Virtue signaling is yelling about your virtues without actually getting off your ass and doing something. This is very different, this is the company sacrificing some of their business to take a moral stance against a fascist regime invading a neighboring sovereign.

I don't care about this war, and all I get from this is that this domain registrar could block me with no notice for an abitrary reason. They (Namecheap) can do whatever they want, but I'll be actively working to deter people from using it.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by root_axis »

hereforphone wrote: post #133

If they're willing to terminate service for political reasons in this case, who's to say they won't do it in the future for other political reasons? Here begins the slippery slope of Namecheap terminating service to those it deems "wrong". Been a happy, confident Namecheap user for a long time. Now I'm not so confident.

Literally everyone is willing to terminate services for political reasons given the right reasons for their politics. If Russia was invading a city where you or your coworkers were working and your employer decided to stop doing business with them, I think you might be more forgiving

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by crossroadsguy »

hereforphone wrote: post #134
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

Would you give me a list of "wrong" things I shouldn't do, or "wrong" places I shouldn't live, in order to not have my service terminated in the future? I live in Turkey sometimes. Am I in danger of losing my Namecheap account if Erdoğan (the dictator) does something even more crazy than usual, in the future?

Just “contact their support” or be on the lookout here on hn and CEO will sure be “making exceptions” in hn comments. Don’t fret.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by born2discover »

Vermeulen wrote: post #405
born2discover wrote: post #391

Quoted post unavailable.

This is a nation that just invaded a democratic country, and you call actions against them 'cancel culture'? This isn't some celebrity on Twitter losing their job - it's a private company that no longer wants to give tax dollars to a evil regime

What that company is trying to do is breach hundreds if not thousands of contracts just because said customers belong to a certain country. Such actions have legal ramifications that either the CEO or the entire Namecheap board did not take into account.

Hence this entire act resembles an emotional response of a distraught individual that lashes out. Have a look at [1] for an interesting take on the matter.

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30507443

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by dccoolgai »

Russian wrote: post #250
risyachka wrote: post #184

I will respond to this one. It's good that you tried to fight the regime. Clearly it wasn't enough. You live in society, not in the woods. The majority decides how all live - like in any other country. In your country majority decided not to overthrow dictatorship. As result, minority suffers. So here is your answer.

Most of people here has no any experience of fighting against even a soft authoritarian regime. You just don't have a clue how it looks like where the police officers beat you in the chamber in the night and you are screaming and nobody help you, they torture you putting a bottle in your anus and smashing your teeth. It's completely immoral to blame people they are fighting not enough, you don't know NOTHING about it…

Those missiles that are killing 6 year old girls aren't building themselves and paying for themselves. I respect that it's tough, but you have to respect this company's right to do the things you can't or aren't willing to do.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by concinds »

toyg wrote: post #236

This is the first European conflict of the internet era where one side gets economically isolated in a very radical way. A lot of theories about modern economic warfare and its effects, are being tested in the real world - stuff like "Country X cannot wage war because the economic blowback would destroy them". I expect the Chinese are watching it attentively, to name one interested party (eh). If this strategy works,…

> "Country X cannot wage war because the economic blowback would destroy them"

Note that a common corollary to that is that countries cannot afford to impose sanctions on others because the economic blowback would destroy them (even sanctions against "smaller" countries, due to how global liquidity works). This is more readily acknowledged by academics, and essentially cancels out the whole theory; but for some reason didn't make it into the trickled-down-for-the-masses version.

If Western leaders apply strong sanctions, it's quite likely we'd go back around 90 years, so you won't be far off!

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by FabHK »

echelon wrote: post #222
symbix wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that, and you're totally entitled to do this. And you're probably right that ends justify the means. And, probably, total damage will be worth it. But, in my insignificant personal case, I will be busy moving domains and paying for transfers instead of doing what I've been doing and spending money on what I've been spending it for the last 5 days, helping people detained and/or arrested for participating in ant…

> I'm not complaining. While I did try to fight against the regime since its beginning, I could've done more. We screwed this up, and we're responsible, and all the inconveniences we might have cannot be compared to the suffering of people of Ukraine. Just saying. I'm so sorry you have to live under these conditions. You don't need to compare yourself to the suffering of the Ukrainian people. You're also in pain. Hav…

There were surveys years ago reporting that more than half of Russia's youth would like to emigrate. I doubt it is easy.

ETA: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-politics-emigratio...

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by austhrow743 »

jacquesm wrote: post #357
waffle_maniac wrote: post #290

Quoted post unavailable.

Once upon a time trading with the enemy would get you shot. Now obviously those days are past and it is no apparently perfectly acceptable to do this (see: German Gas), but for Namecheap this isn't about money, but about the fact that their employees are mostly in Ukraine and that you are effectively asking them to continue to trade with the party that has declared themselves their enemy, which they - in good conscie…

Which enemy is German Gas trading with?

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by serverlessmania »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

I genuinely hope this is a joke, REALLY....

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by JVillella »

I would bet this causes more harm to innocent people than frustration to the Russian regime.

Why not do something more targeted? E.g. take down domains that are related to the government, propaganda, etc.

As can be seen in the HN community, Russian tech workers are the likely the least influenced by propaganda and do support Ukraine. With this service termination however, they're most impacted.

At the very least, please give people an extension. March 31? Innocent Russians are going through a lot right now.

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