I have formally accepted the CEO job at Cruise once again

Post by panick21_ » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 12:29 AM UTC

waffle_maniac wrote: post #130

onethought wrote: post #115

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But it's not finished. Have you asked Cruise testers how many interventions they have had to do in equivalent drives as Tesla FSD Beta? It's strange to me that Tesla who are building this in the open are criticised for being dishonest. Meanwhile ALL the competitors are closed door private development and some how we should trust them more? In an industry that is known for deceitful behaviour.

> Last year, Waymo logged 29,945 autonomous miles between reported disengagements. https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/status/1458169984987942913 > Cruise drove 41,719 miles in autonomous mode per disengagement. > Waymo drove 2.36 million miles autonomously with one accident that was the vehicle's fault. https://twitter.com/TaylorOgan/status/1495801454111727616

Post by gcanyon » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 12:33 AM UTC

paganel wrote: post #112

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My problem with cameras is as a human I'm well aware there are things that I can't see and so i rely on faith. I've driven in dense fog trusting that nobody else would be stupid enough to do the same (fortunately taillights can be seen through fog, but not many other dangers that normally are not on the road, but if so they are dead). I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear. I…

> I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear Not sure how to say it, but try to never do that going forward, please, for your sake and for the sake of the others who share the same road with you. Yes, driving "blind" for one second, maybe two seconds (even though it's uncomfortable for me at this point) from time to time is not the end of the world, particularly if you're driving…

Post by AlotOfReading » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 12:38 AM UTC

onethought wrote: post #115

waffle_maniac wrote: post #84

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> I'm still excited about the LIDAR possibilities but vision alone has done a remarkable job. Not for Tesla. So many interventions. So many situations where the car actively tries to kill the driver and pedestrians.

But it's not finished. Have you asked Cruise testers how many interventions they have had to do in equivalent drives as Tesla FSD Beta? It's strange to me that Tesla who are building this in the open are criticised for being dishonest. Meanwhile ALL the competitors are closed door private development and some how we should trust them more? In an industry that is known for deceitful behaviour.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 12:47 AM UTC

sbierwagen wrote: post #144

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I would not take Elon and Tesla at face value. While they are currently going all in on cameras, I wouldn't put it past them to 180 and decide "turns out we need new hardware, and we're going to eat the cost considering our revenue and market cap." They recently filed to test new millimeter wave radar equipment operating at 60GHz [1], so I wouldn't say they're married to vision only if it turns out vision only isn't…

That electrek article doesn't make it very clear, but Ka band radar is not new. Project Soli used it for gesture detection. Those roadside "speedometer" signs run at 20ghz. Etc. You could imagine an AESA phased array at 60ghz. But there's a reason you only see those radars on aircraft or military vessels: you need hundreds or thousands of individual transmitters. That's why they cost millions of dollars and draw kilo…

Post by sizzle » Tue, Mar 01, 2022, 1:09 AM UTC

gcanyon wrote: post #143

paganel wrote: post #112

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> I often drive with sub in my eyes at dawn/dusk and trust that the road is clear Not sure how to say it, but try to never do that going forward, please, for your sake and for the sake of the others who share the same road with you. Yes, driving "blind" for one second, maybe two seconds (even though it's uncomfortable for me at this point) from time to time is not the end of the world, particularly if you're driving…

A younger, stupider me was riding a motorcycle on highway 99 near Merced. It was just after dawn on a Saturday, with literally no one else on the road for miles. So as an experiment, at 70 mph I put my face down on the gas tank: I could see the highway lines on either side, but literally nothing ahead. I wanted to see how long I could hold that position without freaking out. Answer: about twenty seconds. This is far…