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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by xanaxagoras »

Barrin92 wrote: post #233
xanaxagoras wrote: post #125

I'm not in Russia and I don't really care about this war (sorry, just being honest!) but this isn't the kind of internet I want, where companies show their virtue by taking political positions and removing service from their customers (looking at you AWS). The domain and e-mail service that I paid money for shouldn't be contingent on my government behaving and continuing to behave in a manor that Namecheap approves o…

>but this isn't the kind of internet I want we're not living in some 90s California cypherpunk fantasy any more. The internet is as real of a domain of warfare as any physical one and just like planes are being grounded, pipelines are being turned off you can be sure cyberspace isn't going to be treated any differently. When Russia and NATO/Europe enter a conflict not caring isn't going to be an option.

So leave that type of warfare to the warring governments. We don't need fractured delivery of every service in accordance with every service provider's politics in relation to current events.

> When Russia and NATO/Europe enter a conflict not caring isn't going to be an option.

I agree, at that point it's WW3. Just what we need, an absolute disaster.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by NamecheapCEO »

jacquesm wrote: post #204
symbix wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that, and you're totally entitled to do this. And you're probably right that ends justify the means. And, probably, total damage will be worth it. But, in my insignificant personal case, I will be busy moving domains and paying for transfers instead of doing what I've been doing and spending money on what I've been spending it for the last 5 days, helping people detained and/or arrested for participating in ant…

Thank you for coming out like this and doing what you are doing, at the same time: this also isn't your fight, you are like those people hiding in the Ukraine subways hoping they'll be alive tomorrow morning: collateral damage on a stage set by a madman. I suspect that there are a lot of people right now wondering if continuing with Putin is worth it so please don't stop, you may be close to some kind of resolution.

We have over 1000 people on the ground there, mostly in Kharkiv. We have been working 24/7 to try to get them to safety. While I haven't experienced anywhere near the suffering they have. I haven't slept almost anything for days trying to help in every way possible to get them to safety. Don't make assumptions.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by firekvz »

As a non-russia customer, I am inmediatly moving all of my domains I host at namecheap to another provider.

this kind of stuff from private companies are useless, and downvote me all you want, they do not work, and dont come to lecture me from your SF desk while im living in a sanctioned country, how did the 2017-2019 sactions for Venezuela worked? Everyone in the world moved on and even forgot about our country, and the comunist regime is more alive than ever, all the sactions just fucked the regular people like me, for example my gf is still explaining after 2 years to those idiots at transferwise support that her money sitting on their super awesome "no borders account" has nothing to do with the venezuelan govt and that it's from her US based remote job but they just decided to steal over 22k USD from her solely based on her citizenship. Or should I tell you how stripe completely killed my friend's startup by suspending their accout because they had venezuelans IPs and venezuelan citizenship and aparently they aren't able to check that they (normal citizens) arent the people on the OFAC list, (like 5 names LOL)

So yeah, dont mind me, get your likes, get all the nice advertisiment you want while prettending you are helping and is nothing more than a PR move while messing with normal people with normal lives, struggling everyday but you won't get me as a customer anymore, we are all suppose to be professionals at our tech jobs.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by filoleg »

risyachka wrote: post #190

Quoted post unavailable.

> russian people chose to live under dictatorship, now they face the consequences of their own doing

Just like North Korean people chose to live under dictatorship? Do you honestly think that Putin won all his elections fairly, especially with all his opponents (including Navalny) suddenly getting charged with random bogus crimes every single time elections come up, which just coincidentally leaves them locked up in jail and unable to run for presidency?

A significant chunk of Russian population isn't completely brainwashed, given protests have been massive over the past decade, and despite the consequences always being brutal. Yes, I do have relatives living in Russia, and from what they told me they have witnessed, the violence against protestors has been way more excessive than what was shown on the news here (let alone russian news, which try to not cover it at all, aside from a passing mention). The fact that they got over 1.5k+ arrested a couple of days ago alone tells volumes, and that's just official estimates from last week. The real numbers are, I wager, much higher than that by now.

P.S. No, I am not against sanctions or SWIFT disconnection. Clearly, as we can see now, those were needed to push the Russian economy in the direction that would be more conductive for Russia agreeing to finally consider negotiating ceasefire and feel the weight of the consequences. Namecheap terminating user account services in Russia? That doesn't affect the Russian economy even in the slightest and just punishes regular people who already are scrambling due to their own emergency plans and assisting others. Which is evidenced by a lot of replies in this thread from those in that exact situation.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by [deleted] »

symbix wrote: post #172
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

I get that, and you're totally entitled to do this. And you're probably right that ends justify the means. And, probably, total damage will be worth it. But, in my insignificant personal case, I will be busy moving domains and paying for transfers instead of doing what I've been doing and spending money on what I've been spending it for the last 5 days, helping people detained and/or arrested for participating in ant…

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Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by optimalsolver »

NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

I support your stance on this.

Speaking as a Namecheap customer for several years now.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by michaelmrose »

Mondialisation wrote: post #211
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

> but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime So you're essentially saying is that it would be better if Russian civilians suffer poverty, where do you even draw the line with this reasoning?

The logical line would be non combatants dying avoidable deaths. For example if Russia were so impoverished that people were starving to death we should try to feed them. It is indeed absolutely OK economically punish a country in order to inspire them to vote against leaders who are murdering their neighbors.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by nest0r »

analogdreams wrote: post #158
NamecheapCEO wrote: post #42

We haven't blocked the domains, we are asking people to move. There are plenty of other choices out there when it comes to infrastructure services so this isn't "deplatforming". I sympathize with people that are not pro regime but ultimately even those tax dollars they may generate go to the regime. We have people on the ground in Ukraine being bombarded now non stop. I cannot with good conscience continue to support…

My domains will be moving from your service as a result.

I just moved mine to them as a result.

Re: Namecheap: Russia Service Termination

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Post by Russian »

risyachka wrote: post #184

I will respond to this one. It's good that you tried to fight the regime. Clearly it wasn't enough. You live in society, not in the woods. The majority decides how all live - like in any other country. In your country majority decided not to overthrow dictatorship. As result, minority suffers. So here is your answer.

Most of people here has no any experience of fighting against even a soft authoritarian regime. You just don't have a clue how it looks like where the police officers beat you in the chamber in the night and you are screaming and nobody help you, they torture you putting a bottle in your anus and smashing your teeth. It's completely immoral to blame people they are fighting not enough, you don't know NOTHING about it.
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