Panasonic to begin mass producing new 4680 Tesla battery by March 2024

Post by rootusrootus » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:05 PM UTC

felipemnoa wrote: post #16

luxurytent wrote: post #11

As a Canadian who's currently driving a 9 year old Mazda 3, I'm waiting for the day it decides to call quits so I can move to an EV (9 isn't that old, so I'm hopeful at least another 2-3 years) That said, I wish there was a site that simply told me now's the right time to buy an EV. With supply chain issues, long waits for a new car, government rebates, and the influx of new inventory/models, it's hard to keep up whe…

I guess it depends a lot on the mileage but I know people with 20 year old Toyota Corollas with more than 200 thousand miles that are still going strong. No crazy maintenance costs either.

Post by rootusrootus » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:10 PM UTC

bushbaba wrote: post #37

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #15

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I'm guessing in about a year. Supply chain problems, primarily chips but also some other parts, continue to plague auto manufacturing. In my industry (RFID), we're expecting the pipelines to unclog in about Q1 of '23 though we might see some relief before then. In late '22 there will likely be a wave of car buying, from pent-up demand, dumping lots of used cars on the market. Might be a good time to shop used. You mi…

It seems non Tesla EVs deprecate quickly. If you just need a commuter car, or car for local shopping. They can be a great deal. For example a 2013 Nissan Leaf that gets ~70 miles of range can be bad for 6k.

Post by gwbas1c » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

dhosek wrote: post #49

mrfusion wrote: post #17

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I’ve thought my next vehicle would be an EV since 1998. But next time for sure.

With our last purchase, we went half-way and got the plug-in hybrid Chrysler Pacifica minivan (which replaced a Prius which replaced a Mazda 6 so it's been a continuous evolution). It's likely that the next car will be a full-on EV. Assuming you have an acceptable parking/charging solution available, a plug-in hybrid is a good option. The Chrysler uses gas more often in the winter to run the heater but even before th…

Post by rootusrootus » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:12 PM UTC

londons_explore wrote: post #36

mrfusion wrote: post #19

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A coming car glut is almost as scary as the current shortage.

The car glut will be in non-EV's. There are a lot of buyers who don't care what type of car they have, and will buy an EV the moment they get cheaper than a gas car - therefore sucking up any glut.

Post by gwbas1c » Mon, Feb 28, 2022, 4:13 PM UTC

jeffbee wrote: post #43

mdorazio wrote: post #32

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Fwiw, I work in the sector and track the TCO comparisons for business modeling. Unless there’s a major shift (ex. Resurgence of tax rebates), you’re looking at 2025-2026 being the sweet spot where EVs will have plentiful options and actually make sense financially for most people instead of keeping a used ICE car.

Is this assuming that U.S. carbon/fuel taxes remain absurdly low indefinitely?