In the product page http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0051VVOB2 the word Android appeared once only. Interesting.
I'm surprised the number isn't zero. From the Google strategic point of view this device is not Android.
Amazon Unveils $199 Kindle Fire Tablet
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#242They show a lot the device in kid's hands : because 7" is too small for grown up? I have played with a RIM Playbook once and the size factor was the same concern. Seems like under 9-10" it can't be a replacement for my laptop in any situation and it feels more like a toy. (Disclaimer : I own an iPad)
Your tablet can never be a replacement for your laptop. Period.
That really depends on what you're using your laptop for. For some people it can.
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#243Bezos, on Amazon's refreshed e-Ink readers: So meet the family. These are premium products at non-premium prices. People are going to love these products. This is Amazon's mission statement for product development. They will not compete with Apple's "revolutionary, magical" phones and tablets; instead, they'll sell quality tablets and readers to the average person at great prices. This populist attitude has been miss…
> The Fire will be the first successful Android tablet
I think credit for this should actually go to the Nook Color. Anecdotally, I actually know more Nook owners than iPad owners.
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#244Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Kindle Touch's killer feature would be better PDF support. The Nook Touch looks totally unusable for PDFs.
The Nook STP runs Android, and it's pretty trivial to get Android-native PDF readers up-and-running on it. None are yet optimized for the e-ink screen, of course, but some have an option to turn off animation which helps somewhat. Something like mupdf (which has already been ported) combined with some button/touch bindings and perhaps a touch-friendly zoom feature seems to me like it would do the job perfectly... and…
Yes, I did see videos of rooted nook, and you could use android apps to view PDFs, but the problem with that is, of course, rooting the device.
I think Kindle 3 is better for PDFs than the Nook Touch, because you can zoom in. It is clunky, but at least you can do it. On the Nook you can only change font sizes, and that reflows the PDF and messes everything up.
The solution, as I see it, since they have a touch screen is to implement something similar to ezPDF, which is my favourite PDF reader for Android. Just a double tap on a section, and it'll zoom exactly on the section of text you want to read. You don't have to fiddle with fixed zoom settings and clunky movement to try and fit the viewport to include the portion you want to see.
Of course, they probably aren't interested in doing this at all, since they'd be very happy if you only read books bought at their store.
PS. The Kindle DX is probably the best for PDFs, but its price and size are big downpoints.
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#245Is anyone else more interested in Silk than the Kindle Fire?
Yes, I'm far more interested in Silk. It's a caching layer over the entire web. That is nuts. I'd love to know more about the internals of it. Do they only grab static files or is their some dynamic content caching? What's the threshold of requests before moving a page/site into Silk? Is there a way to opt out of using it if you have privacy concerns (sending every one of your requests through their system first will be a big issue for a lot of people). This may not seem that groundbreaking since Opera has already done this, but Amazon seem to be doing it on a much grander scale.
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#246I use an Ipad2 and I use it to read books and as a planner. But a tablet for $200 that can do the same?, I don't see why this wouldn't be a hit with people that don't care about details.
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#247People in Europe are getting screwed again . - Small Kindle: $79 - Power Adapter: $10 - Cost in USA: $89 (free shipping) Okay, so I see a banner that they ship to Europe. Excellent, I click it. Then I get a new banner, saying that my country qualifies for free shipping (pending some conditions). I go through the checkout process and I'm faced with the following list: - Kindle + Adapter: $119 - Shipping: $27 (what hap…
How is Amazon responsible for the fact that your government chooses to impose import duties? For that matter, why didn't somebody in Europe start Amazon? Could it have anything to do with the high cost of doing business there? I think your complaints are misdirected.
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#248People in Europe are getting screwed again . - Small Kindle: $79 - Power Adapter: $10 - Cost in USA: $89 (free shipping) Okay, so I see a banner that they ship to Europe. Excellent, I click it. Then I get a new banner, saying that my country qualifies for free shipping (pending some conditions). I go through the checkout process and I'm faced with the following list: - Kindle + Adapter: $119 - Shipping: $27 (what hap…
If you think you are being screwed, take a look at how it is for Brazil. Items (2): $118.99 Shipping & Handling: $28.97 Total Before Tax: $147.96 Estimated Tax To Be Collected: $0.00 Import Fees Deposit $140.74 --------- Order Total: $288.70 Obviously not Amazon's fault. We have absurd taxes here.
If you think you are being screwed, take a look at how it is for China.
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Yes, it's not available for China, and never has been
Obviously not Amazon's fault. We have absurd party here.
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#249Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Everyone else failed at the "lesser price" part. Apple's operational mastery and their cornering of the NAND flash market in particular is a big part of this.
And their mastery of PR is a big part of why the transition from Jobs to Cook has gone so smoothly ...
WRONG.
Tim Cook has been running operations at Apple for a decade now. Here's a 2006 story about Apple's number two:
http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB116096027141893457-aw...
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#250Bezos, on Amazon's refreshed e-Ink readers: So meet the family. These are premium products at non-premium prices. People are going to love these products. This is Amazon's mission statement for product development. They will not compete with Apple's "revolutionary, magical" phones and tablets; instead, they'll sell quality tablets and readers to the average person at great prices. This populist attitude has been miss…
"With this price, though, Amazon won't steal Apple's customers.." I think a lot of people with iPads would have been more than happy to spend half as much to get an easy-to-use tablet.
I actually think this is untrue.
For those who use it extensively, they probably feel $500ish is worth what they paid.
For those who don't, sure they might wish they had spent less, but are these folks going to be satisfied with less functionality/apps/screensize/etc?
The iPad is popular with kids and elderly alike mostly due to it's larger screen size.