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Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#21

That is crossing a line. In free societies we should be able to hear different sides.

> That is crossing a line. In free societies we shoild be able to hear different sides.

RT and Sputnik aren't "sides" in a democratic debate. They are propaganda outlets participating in bad faith with a goal to undermine those societies that have those debates.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious to suggesting we should hear from Putin's personal media outlets for a source on unbiased news coverage? A sincere question, How do you feel about Hitler and the 3rd Reich, did they deserve more outlets also? Both sources are controlled by Putin's Government and have been instructed to restrict Invasion/War and hinder coverage of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine.

> Are you serious to suggesting we should here from Putin's personal media outlets for a source on unbiased news coverage? GP didn't say anything about unbiased . RT has literally "Russia" in the name, so I don't think anyone expects them to be paragons of neutrality for the present situation.

RT is under direct editorial control by Putin and his people. Blocking and banning them is denying Putin an amplifier. Nobody suffers or loses a valid place in any discussions.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#23
post #2

Well, RT seems to be down here (states)

Excellent - I use moscowtimes.ru for news from within russia. Not sure how reliable it is, but i've read an article which if google translate works fine, it would appear there is dissent among their forces. Also the russian ministry of defense has openly spoke, in russia, about russian losses: more than 3200 dead. That's half the losses Russian had in 8 years of the Second Chechen War. Looks like Ukraine is winning a…

Ukraine is losing 1 for every 20 Russians killed so far. Putin's strategical prowess is surprisingly terrible.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#24

That is crossing a line. In free societies we should be able to hear different sides.

> That is crossing a line. In free societies we shoild be able to hear different sides. RT and Sputnik aren't "sides" in a democratic debate. They are propaganda outlets participating in bad faith with a goal to undermine those societies that have those debates.

You are in for a rude awakening my friend.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you serious to suggesting we should hear from Putin's personal media outlets for a source on unbiased news coverage? A sincere question, How do you feel about Hitler and the 3rd Reich, did they deserve more outlets also? Both sources are controlled by Putin's Government and have been instructed to restrict Invasion/War and hinder coverage of the Russian Invasion of Ukraine.

> Are you serious to suggesting we should here from Putin's personal media outlets for a source on unbiased news coverage? GP didn't say anything about unbiased . RT has literally "Russia" in the name, so I don't think anyone expects them to be paragons of neutrality for the present situation.

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Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#26

That is crossing a line. In free societies we should be able to hear different sides.

This is not the type of "side". It spreads misinformation on huge scale. Those sites can be compared to some fantasy book not real news.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#27

That is crossing a line. In free societies we should be able to hear different sides.

> That is crossing a line. In free societies we shoild be able to hear different sides. RT and Sputnik aren't "sides" in a democratic debate. They are propaganda outlets participating in bad faith with a goal to undermine those societies that have those debates.

When all outlets are propaganda outlets, the only way to ensure information from both sides is to let them all scream.

I, like most HNers support Ukraine's bid for survival in this war. But, the sheer magnitude and spread of pro-Ukraine and anti-Russia propaganda would even embarrass the director of Rocky 4.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

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post #26

That is crossing a line. In free societies we should be able to hear different sides.

This is not the type of "side". It spreads misinformation on huge scale. Those sites can be compared to some fantasy book not real news.

I don’t think it’s so simple. I bought Bitcoin in 2013 because of Max Keiser on RT explaining its importance (and talking about the scams going on Wall Street, like silver price manipulation that Goldman Sachs was later fined for), while all the western media wrote that it will collapse to $0, and right now it gives me a comfortable life.

It’s controversial here on HN whether it’s a good or bad thing, but at this point nobody denies that it didn’t collapse how famous US economists predicted.

Re: EU to Ban RT and Sputnik

#29
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Russia is not at war with the EU though?

RF is at information war with the West for about a decade.

So is China, but we aren't seeing a ban of their news. If there was a more consistent ban of countries engaging in an information war I wouldn't have as much of an issue.

When people call for a restriction or ban of Chinese news they are accused of being racist censors.

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