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Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by muldoc »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #4

Putin is full of hot air. I believe with how this is going, one of his advisors or generals will kill him before allowing him to actually fire nukes and initiate MAD. These people might be ok letting him play war in the Ukraine but inviting annihilation from the rest of the world? I'm not so sure. But then again, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of rational behavior coming out of Putin's Russia.

I fear that anyone inside Russia, that could be in a position to topple him has been silenced long ago. At this point, he is trenched in like Stalin.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by throwawaybutwhy »

csomar wrote: post #7
bluefirebrand wrote: post #4

Putin is full of hot air. I believe with how this is going, one of his advisors or generals will kill him before allowing him to actually fire nukes and initiate MAD. These people might be ok letting him play war in the Ukraine but inviting annihilation from the rest of the world? I'm not so sure. But then again, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of rational behavior coming out of Putin's Russia.

This is more serious than you think. Putin thought that, by now, he'll be already controlling the capital and setting a new puppet government. He is clearly losing the war (he was looking for quick toppling of the government). Putin is in a very bad situation right now. And having his nuclear "deterrents" in high-readiness doesn't help.

Not only that. European countries are keen on giving Kiyv more weapons [0], which is what Putin has been warning against.

[0] https://twitter.com/Bundeskanzler/status/1497632817450266632

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by bluefirebrand »

zx85wes wrote: post #8
bluefirebrand wrote: post #4

Putin is full of hot air. I believe with how this is going, one of his advisors or generals will kill him before allowing him to actually fire nukes and initiate MAD. These people might be ok letting him play war in the Ukraine but inviting annihilation from the rest of the world? I'm not so sure. But then again, it doesn't seem like there's a lot of rational behavior coming out of Putin's Russia.

In the past we took such warnings seriously. I think that was wise.

In the past we saw how decades of nuclear tension passed by without a single bomb dropping.

I don't think anyone has a real appetite for nuclear war.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by throwawaybutwhy »

mupuff1234 wrote: post #16

Playing armchair general here, but I wonder what's the playbook if Russia decides to conduct a nuclear weapon "experiment".

Launching a missile to explode over the ocean to show resolve to use nukes. Next, launching a missile to explode over some Alaskan waste, if the previous step doesn't induce NATO to start the negotiations. Something like that.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by heartbreak »

Sebb767 wrote: post #5

These weapons need to be ready to retaliate with few minutes of advance in case of a first strike and Russia is engaging in an active war directly on it's border. Additionally, they are fully aware they are provoking nuclear powers right now and Bombers have been patrolling in neighboring countries since the war started. If they haven't been in alert until now, I don't know what Russia is doing. Obviously I'm not an…

Or an offensive gesture.

Re: Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert

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Post by ukraineally »

The days of mutually assured destruction is actually over. In the time needed for the ICBMs to reach targets on another continent is enough time to intercept those missiles. Obviously neighbours like Finland and Ukraine on the otherhand are problematic. I hope the best for them.

Many missile defense systems have been worked on, sattelites with high powered lasers, planes with high powered lasers, intercepting missiles like Israel's irondome, phalanx anti missile systems, and many others. No idea how effective but we shall see if we need them.

Canada is probably kicking itself pretty hardcore for not accepting the USA's offer to join missile defense. You can read how dumb we are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Missile_Defence_in_Ca... lol or not.. Cold Lake Alberta is probably pretty quiet right now.

My city is tiny and probably not a target. If Toronto is hit, I'm jumping in my car and driving to help anyway I can. I recommend we all do the same, a pair of hands is enough to help.

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