I was recently diagnosed with sleep apnea and got a CPAP machine. It has the option to control temperature and humidity in the air that's pumped through it. A few weeks ago my heater went out. Nothing serious, but it took a week to get it fixed. I'm in Southern California, so it's not like life or death or anything. It turns out if you just turn the heat up in your CPAP machine it works fantastically well as a person…
Heat people, not spaces (2015)
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Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most people in the warmer parts of Japan and China (not Hokkaido, not Heilongjiang) don’t use that much heating in the winter, I’ve gotten used to it and don’t really find it a problem.
I lived in Shanghai, which is too warm for snow in the winter. But it's still freezing cold; when I wasn't running heat (because I didn't know how), I'd wake up in the morning with my toes suffering from frostbite. I was miserable all the time until I obtained a space heater.
People often don't pay much attention to their toes but they're pretty important for balance. It must be difficult living with that injury.
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#233What about your lungs? There is a reason tropical animals die with respiratory diseases when using heat pads in their inclosure over warming the air.
Your nasal passages and airways do any amazing job or co diction if air before it gets deep into the lungs. Tropical animals don’t since they don’t need it
My long narrow nose is great at conditioning the air, but conversely I can't breathe through my nose when I exercise...
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don’t want to walk around with piles of movement limiting and suffocating clothing inside my own living room. That is a strawperson - People wear a sweater all the time - they are pretty popular, believe it or not - without wearing "piles", having their movement limited, or even suffocating. If you find yourself suffocating when wearing sweaters, see a doctor! Holy cow, the burden of wearing a sweater is just inc…
> People wear a sweater all the time I never do because I feel suffocated. > see a doctor Thanks for the unsolicited advice. I in fact have and have been told not to wear clothing that makes me feel suffocated. > the burden of wearing a sweater is just incredible in some of these comments Your lack of sympathy is equally incredible
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I don’t want to walk around with piles of movement limiting and suffocating clothing inside my own living room. That is a strawperson - People wear a sweater all the time - they are pretty popular, believe it or not - without wearing "piles", having their movement limited, or even suffocating. If you find yourself suffocating when wearing sweaters, see a doctor! Holy cow, the burden of wearing a sweater is just inc…
> People wear a sweater all the time I never do because I feel suffocated. > see a doctor Thanks for the unsolicited advice. I in fact have and have been told not to wear clothing that makes me feel suffocated. > the burden of wearing a sweater is just incredible in some of these comments Your lack of sympathy is equally incredible
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#236Our body NEED infrared light. (real doctor research with scientific evidence) An interesting recent discovery is that our body need infrared radiation to function properly, not just UV light/vitamin D. I think that people living in the northern climate discovered/felt that it was better to be exposed to the radian heat of the fire in the winter. We recently (50-100) years have been getting rid of fireplaces and repla…
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#237An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. If your slippers have sheep's wool in them, like ugg slippers, then they often sweat a lot or feel a little wet while simultaneously feeling cold at times, or warm enough. Most sweaters are also not designed to keep your armpits a little bit cool…
> An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. We can sit and imagine problems with every course of action, and never step forward. In my life, I've never had the quoted problem and I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem. On my list of things to worry about, this ranks near the bot…
Well, you assume these are fake problems, and so the GP is being disingenuous.
The problems he mentions basically only happen if you stay at a computer, or such unphysical activities that form the basis of modern work. As you properly notice, these problems are mostly nonexistent if you do "real" physical activities, but you can still suffer from them. E.g. while doing inconsistent physical exercise in cold winters , your temperature will rise up a lot, so you may sweat a lot and then get cold fast again in your wet clothing. Any construction worker knows this can be quite a hassle.
He then mention "cold hands". This is called "Raynaud syndrome", and affects 4% of people. This is very difficult to deal with, especially if your primary work is typing at a computer. There are many types of gloves you can buy: compression gloves, fishermen gloves, spandex ones, with 1 to 5 exposed fingers. Each has particular downsides to deal with, none are perfect.
You can get silver-threaded clothing too, although that is quite expensive. Managing good comfort while minimizing room-heating is not easy at all, and that does not even address other "house" issues (at an extreme, water-pipes exploding because of freezing water).
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#238A lot of times this just does not work for me. Even if the air is a temperature I would like, a room with cold walls, well ... you can literally feel it. It's a blackbody radiation thing ... you are emitting heat but the walls aren't emitting as much as you are, and it feels like heat falling off of my body. Which is fine sometimes but if I need to get work done, I go into torpor. I may be unusually sensitive to infr…
Personally, I can feel whether I'm facing the outdoor wall or not with my eyes shut, no matter how hot the room is. Predictably, that side gets cold even if my back is sweating.
I suspect most people are the same and don't necessarily realise it (e.g. why do many people prefer cooler air temps in the summer and warmer air temps in winter, even controlled for humidity?) because there's just no common way of measuring or altering your rooms radiation values besides insulation.
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#239Earlier quoted context omitted.
> People wear a sweater all the time I never do because I feel suffocated. > see a doctor Thanks for the unsolicited advice. I in fact have and have been told not to wear clothing that makes me feel suffocated. > the burden of wearing a sweater is just incredible in some of these comments Your lack of sympathy is equally incredible
Your comment gives of the same vibes as people not wearing a mask because it "suffocates" them.
There is a big difference between feeling suffocated in your own home where no one else is involved vs. among people you could potentially be putting at risk.
Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)
#240I've been thinking about the inverse problem. I live in a very warm city. Air conditioning (cooling spaces) is the norm, but tons of money are spent with installations, maintenance and the monthly electricity bill. The new houses are designed with zero consideration about ventilation, designers seem to take for granted that you are going to buy an AC system. Oftentimes, a very simple change in the project would be en…
I would disagree with new houses not considering ventilation. There are set building standards (ASHRAE 62.1, 62.2, and ISO standards) that have been around for a while that specify how ventilated spaces should be for given use cases. There’s a more recent trend to evolve these standards to take into consideration non-hazardous levels of particulate matter and gases that still show cognitive impairment—-I’m currently…
I'm not aware of such standards over here. Maybe they exist but aren't being followed, or maybe they are deficient.