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Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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wolverine876 wrote: post #178
novok wrote: post #60

An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. If your slippers have sheep's wool in them, like ugg slippers, then they often sweat a lot or feel a little wet while simultaneously feeling cold at times, or warm enough. Most sweaters are also not designed to keep your armpits a little bit cool…

> An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. We can sit and imagine problems with every course of action, and never step forward. In my life, I've never had the quoted problem and I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem. On my list of things to worry about, this ranks near the bot…

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Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by porker »

wolverine876 wrote: post #178
novok wrote: post #60

An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. If your slippers have sheep's wool in them, like ugg slippers, then they often sweat a lot or feel a little wet while simultaneously feeling cold at times, or warm enough. Most sweaters are also not designed to keep your armpits a little bit cool…

> An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. We can sit and imagine problems with every course of action, and never step forward. In my life, I've never had the quoted problem and I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem. On my list of things to worry about, this ranks near the bot…

> In my life, I've never had the quoted problem and I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem.

I have the quoted problem. Sitting working at the computer at home. Armpits especially. Groin can be similar.

Think about the problem. In a proper typing position with elbows by your side, the part of your upper body where flesh touches flesh is the side of your chest and your upper arm. It's no wonder the armpits are warmer than elsewhere.

I ameliorate the armpits by using a gilet over thinner layers. It keeps my core warm, but does nothing for poor circulation in my hands. And I find even the thinnest gloves slow my typing.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by asdff »

Gigachad wrote: post #20
noodles_nomore wrote: post #2

Idea: Divert some CPU generated heat to the keyboard and wrist rest of a laptop. Code outside in any season.

Problem: Modern laptops like the macbook run cold. Maybe future node versions can address this.

Are new the macbooks really running cold? I haven't used the arm models but the intel ones would always seem to be warm with that lava hot spot on the bottom no matter the state of the fans.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

wolverine876 wrote: post #178
novok wrote: post #60

An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. If your slippers have sheep's wool in them, like ugg slippers, then they often sweat a lot or feel a little wet while simultaneously feeling cold at times, or warm enough. Most sweaters are also not designed to keep your armpits a little bit cool…

> An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. We can sit and imagine problems with every course of action, and never step forward. In my life, I've never had the quoted problem and I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem. On my list of things to worry about, this ranks near the bot…

> In my life, [...] I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem. [...] yet somehow we all do fine. I expect our bodies adjust fine to such variations.

Take the commentor you replied to and myself as people with this problem. Its not for not trying - growing up counting pennies, not in poverty but money was tight, lead to a layers based heating mentality. One of the greatest benefits of the extra wealth afforded to the software career is to heat the space I'm in.

On the flip side I'm also sensitive to hot spaces - I keep my house in the 16-19 celcius range during the day, and colder at night.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by at_a_remove »

A lot of times this just does not work for me. Even if the air is a temperature I would like, a room with cold walls, well ... you can literally feel it. It's a blackbody radiation thing ... you are emitting heat but the walls aren't emitting as much as you are, and it feels like heat falling off of my body. Which is fine sometimes but if I need to get work done, I go into torpor.

I may be unusually sensitive to infrared: one of my backrub tricks is apparently "kknowing" what hurts without being told. Aside from posture, if you just wave your hands over someone's back, you can feel the heat come off more in any inflamed or tense area.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by wolverine876 »

xigoi wrote: post #182
wolverine876 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. We can sit and imagine problems with every course of action, and never step forward. In my life, I've never had the quoted problem and I've never heard anyone else say it's a problem. On my list of things to worry about, this ranks near the bot…

Do you wear gloves indoors? If not, aren't your hands colder? If yes, how do you cook or work with a computer?

> Do you wear gloves indoors? If not, aren't your hands colder?

No and no. The temperature in my home is set just warm enough that a sweater (and let me add, shoes - insulation from the coldest air and surface in the room) keeps me comfortable. My hands don't get chilled at that temperature.

FWIW - from wilderness experience - it is widely believed that the best way to warm your hands is often to warm your core. Your body naturally prioritizes your core (probably better to keep your heart at 37 C and let your hands get a little chilly than vice versa!); keep that warm enough and energy/blood will be diverted to keeping your extremities warm.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by Normal_gaussian »

wolverine876 wrote: post #187

At night, the heat is off. Just a warm comforter is plenty in almost any weather, and the cool air feels great. In fact, I always try to position the head of my bed near a window and even in cold weather, at least crack open the window - breathing fresh air all night feels great . For anyone who has gone camping, they know that a warm enough sleeping bag is fine, no problem at all, and again, the fresh air is a wonde…

As a counterpoint - camping is famously hated by a significant portion of the population.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by mackrevinack »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #108
novok wrote: post #60

An issue with keeping yourself warm with clothing is some hotspots get too warm, and others too cold. Like the armpits usually get too warm, but your exposed hands too cold. If your slippers have sheep's wool in them, like ugg slippers, then they often sweat a lot or feel a little wet while simultaneously feeling cold at times, or warm enough. Most sweaters are also not designed to keep your armpits a little bit cool…

Are there any good fingerless gloves for typing? I'd like to give them a shot, cold hands are usually what causes me to turn the heat on and I try to use as little heat as I can.

i haven't done extensive research so there could be thinner gloves out there, but i bought a pair of "edz merino fingerless gloves" a few months ago and they are less restrictive than the pair i had before

still end up with cold-ish fingers though which feels similar enough to cold hands. im thinking what i need is something like mittens but instead of something that wraps around your fingers, it would just rest on top and keep the air off while your fingers are free to move underneath

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by wolverine876 »

adrianN wrote: post #150
thaumasiotes wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I lived in Shanghai, which is too warm for snow in the winter. But it's still freezing cold; when I wasn't running heat (because I didn't know how), I'd wake up in the morning with my toes suffering from frostbite. I was miserable all the time until I obtained a space heater.

That sounds like you have the wrong blanket.

Some warm socks might help too.

Re: Heat people, not spaces (2015)

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Post by screenbreakout »

mc32 wrote: post #126
joe_the_user wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Last December, Nevada County Ca, where I live, had a massive snow storm that knocked out power and snowed people in for 1-3 weeks. I wound up huddled in my apartment with 45 degree heat for five days or so. With enough sweaters, I was a comfortable temperature. Aside from what you mention, since basically you providing your own heat for yourself, you have to put or take off layers depending on physical activity. And…

One place you still need heat is the shower. Maybe some people are okay with taking a shower in 45F ambient temps, but I would resist it.

I'd recommend the sauna as an alternative... I'm really interested in the homestead movement and one thing thats promoted is the rocket stove, I've often wondered how such a design might work out if you used it for cooking while using the residual heat for a hot "sauna" wall in the next room...
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