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Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1496906468695724036 I’m not sure if he’s extremely naive or completely delusional.

Why do you say that? He managed to get Elon Musk and other heavy hitters on before hardly anyone was aware of who Lex was. Whose to say what the limits are.

Why would Putin talk to some random guy in the middle of the Ukraine war?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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post #24

How does he even get all these people to come on his podcast?

Lex is a good interviewer. I started watching his MIT AI class videos years ago. He had a good skill of inviting interesting people to the classes. He also seems very media savvy. I often don’t have time for complete interviews so I sometimes look out for his shorter clips on YouTube.

Replying to my own comment:

I just listened to the Zuckerberg interview. It got so much better in the last third when both of them seemed more relaxed. Too bad they didn’t break through to something more like friendship earlier. I have never seen Zuckerberg look so relaxed as in the last 20 minutes.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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post #4

It sucks that the Lex podcast has maybe the best guests of any podcast out there right now and he's such a terrible interviewer. Seriously, give me this guest list with Rogan on the other side any day of the week.

Funny, I think the same of Rogan. Give both their guest lists to Tyler Cowen.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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Then I’m still frustrated that better interviewers don’t get to talk to these people.

But it would be a totally different conversation. Sean Carrol and Lex have both interviewed Wolfram, same discussion but done in a different way. I quite like that sometimes you get to hear Lex actually work through the implications or understanding of what the interviewee claims, rather than just being a listener.

Didn't listen to Lex Friedman's interview with Wolfram but I thought the Mindscape episode with Wolfram was excellent. Sean Carol is obviously deeply knowledgable about the subject at hand and managed to ask interesting, penetrating questions without being adversarial and making Wolfram defensive.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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post #73

https://twitter.com/lexfridman/status/1496906468695724036 I’m not sure if he’s extremely naive or completely delusional.

dude has a wonderful habit of blocking anyone he deems remotely "negative" on Twitter

Very interesting. I've never interacted with him on social media, but have experienced people who were spreading the "we know less than we think and let's be humble" vibe be very quick to block when commenting something not 100% laudatory.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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The first 30 minutes are exhausting corp speech it’s like Facebook is his only character trait.

Does it stop being like that? I turned it off and stopped watching because I got tired of hearing about how great the "metaverse" will be.

It does later on. A lot of it still touches fb/meta, but I found the chapters about "advice for young people" and "the meaning of life" to be quite interesting. It's a side of him that you don't really see anywhere else or think about. I'd recommend the watch.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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I think it's perhaps possible that Ballmer, as CEO of a major competitor, was not engaging in dispassionate analysis and in fact there was a non-zero chance that the iPhone would gain significant market share.

I think it’s usually better to accept someone’s words at face value than to attempt to infer deeper meaning. Ballmer has gone on to say that was one of his biggest mistakes and history agrees. Regardless, there’s many examples of people throughout history finding no value in seemingly pointless technologies only to be proven wrong so I believe the point the quote still stands. I suppose I could always just link to th…

I agree in general, but in the case of CEOs giving public remarks it's safe to assume they are talking their book. Regardless, I don't see it as particularly relevant that people have been pessimistic about technologies that turned out quite successful. For every instance of "they said revolutionary product X was crazy but it turned out to be wildly successful" there are probably a 1000 instances of "they thought revolutionary product X was crazy and it failed miserably and faded into irrelevance." In other words, you have to actually articulate a reason why you think VR will be as successful as Meta claims it will be rather than make a "they laughed at Einstein/Semmelweis/etc too" argument. And with respect to VR I just don't see it. I've played games on the Occulus and they are pretty fun but I just don't see what the value proposition of VR is beyond gaming. And VR gaming can still be a huge industry but I just don't see it being anything more than that. Whereas I think the value proposition of smartphones was fairly obvious. It of course wasn't clear than any particular phone (like the original iPhone, perhaps especially the original iPhone given that it only worked for one carrier at the time) would break through. So it could have been that Ballmer was completely correct if things had turned out slightly differently. But some smartphone would have broken through. I don't think VR is the same. It's not just that there is uncertainty over which particular product will take off, but uncertainty about how big the eventual market for VR products and services will be in total.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

#138

Having finally watched the whole thing, just writing some thoughts below...for those who maybe didn't or can't watch. 1 - Zuck really, really is all in on the metaverse thing. I was never sure if it was his idea, or he sees a trend, etc, but now I'm convinced it's all his idea. I find it odd but interesting someone with essentially unlimited real life resources seeks such escape. 1.5 - I think he also overestimates i…

> Also saying people will spend as much on virtual clothes as real clothes feels offbase, but maybe I'm wrong. As a gamedev I can absolutely believe this. You don't have to spend much time googling the breakdown of consumer spend in the games industry to see that this is absolutely, sadly, true. But they don't need to spend all their time in those metaverse to do that.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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post #138

Having finally watched the whole thing, just writing some thoughts below...for those who maybe didn't or can't watch. 1 - Zuck really, really is all in on the metaverse thing. I was never sure if it was his idea, or he sees a trend, etc, but now I'm convinced it's all his idea. I find it odd but interesting someone with essentially unlimited real life resources seeks such escape. 1.5 - I think he also overestimates i…

> Also saying people will spend as much on virtual clothes as real clothes feels offbase, but maybe I'm wrong. As a gamedev I can absolutely believe this. You don't have to spend much time googling the breakdown of consumer spend in the games industry to see that this is absolutely, sadly, true. But they don't need to spend all their time in those metaverse to do that.

Isn't the cost different? Asking in earnest, it's been years since I've been big into gaming. I remember xbox avatars charging a couple dollars for an outfit, whereas a typical casual outfit for me would be 50 to 70 dollars

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the Lex Fridman Podcast [video]

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you don't 'get a postdoc'. It's not a degree. It's a job you get that requires a PhD. It's a form a purgatory until you can get a real academic job. The goal of a post doc is to continue to do research work where you're the first position on publications to pad your CV to the point where it looks impressive enough when you're out giving job talks for tenure track positions. If you have a very strong PhD thesis, produ…

and that discredits him somehow?

Well he did stop doing anything that you could classify as research, and decided to become a youtube talk-show host instead.

It's almost as if he was there just long enough to associate his name with the school as an ends to impress dumb people.

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