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Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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With crypto you can transfer your wealth across borders away from oppressive regimes or an incoming army by memorizing 12 words. It's hard to overstate how valuable that is for anyone who finds themselves in that position, and it's becoming more relevant by the day.

You can only do this as long as you are able to convert fiat to crypto and back. You can also only do this as long as crypto is so small that its not getting banned. And for everyone who doesn't has this issue, crypto is actually bad: the overall benefit of anonymous money transfer benefits who want to do illegal things which are illegal for purposes. Would you like to know that others are doing tax fraud and you are…

>You can only do this as long as you are able to convert fiat to crypto and back.

>You can also only do this as long as crypto is so small that its not getting banned.

Killing cryptocurrency is impossible if people value it and can exchange it for fiat in-person.

>And for everyone who doesn't has this issue, crypto is actually bad: the overall benefit of anonymous money transfer benefits who want to do illegal things which are illegal for purposes.

Governments can make anything illegal for any reason they want. I've lost a ton of trust in the Canadian government after they deemed it illegal to donate to a cause they disagree with.

>Would you like to know that others are doing tax fraud and you are the fair citizen? Knowing that they do not contribute to schools and infrastructure while using your schools and infrastructure?

>We do not benefit from tax fraud. The mafia does.

The mafia has far better ways of committing tax fraud than using cryptocurrency.

Only the rich will benefit from banning cryptocurrency.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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And fiat money can be used to deal drugs. I mean I don't defend crypto, the way things are going is that they'll be just as regulated and centralized as digital fiat is, and a lot of it is people getting rich, or hoping to - I mean I'm one of those people, still waiting for my handful of dogecoin to go up 10.000% so I can retire. But I also have a regular job, regular savings, and regular stonks because savings accou…

The exchanges can be regulated, but good luck trying to regulate a global peer to peer network!

You just need to regulate the end points. At some point, someone needs real money instead of robux.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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> If crypto fails because it's effectively legislated out of existence, that would be hard to see that as anything but a vindication of the concept. If the concept is "decentralized payments are resistant to government intervention", then wouldn't the government killing crypto be proof that the concept failed?

> If the concept is "decentralized payments are resistant to government intervention", then wouldn't the government killing crypto be proof that the concept failed? Anything can be physically destroyed and anybody can be physically jailed or killed, so I suppose there will never be a currency that is 100% immune to punitive government action. But it seems like a vindication of the concept if some government felt thre…

A lot of people want crypto banned simply because its uses seem to be almost entirely restricted to criminal activity and speculation (i.e. gambling).

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Why do people trust middlemen to handle their crypto in a safe manner? The whole idea behind crypto is that it's decentralized. Interacting with exchanges, investment platforms, etc is asking for trouble. Assume any exchange is another MtGox waiting to happen. Assume you no longer own your funds once you interact with any crypto platform. Fraud is rampant in the crypto scene and has been since the beginning. And for…

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Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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Yeah, went from $35,000 each to $39,000... it's about a 8% increase or "nose dive" as you call it.

And... 18 hrs prior to being at $35000 it was at.... wait for it... hang on... can you guess... ? $39000.

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Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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The exchanges can be regulated, but good luck trying to regulate a global peer to peer network!

You just need to regulate the end points. At some point, someone needs real money instead of robux.

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The reason they didn't extend them was that they didn't want to go through the senate vote, and also because of the extreme controversy it caused. Trudeau had said earlier he wanted to extend them past the 30 days. So it's weird to say that the controversy and reactions were baseless because their intended goal was achieved. And that was to make Trudeau's decision as politically costly and controversial as possible.…

So in other words...the system worked exactly as it was designed to work...

I guess but only because there was a very very vocal backlash. It wouldn't have necessarily worked if everyone was just complacent and apologetic for Trudeau. Trudeau had no intention of showing any restraint until the backlash intensified.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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And fiat money can be used to deal drugs. I mean I don't defend crypto, the way things are going is that they'll be just as regulated and centralized as digital fiat is, and a lot of it is people getting rich, or hoping to - I mean I'm one of those people, still waiting for my handful of dogecoin to go up 10.000% so I can retire. But I also have a regular job, regular savings, and regular stonks because savings accou…

The exchanges can be regulated, but good luck trying to regulate a global peer to peer network!

Seems like a mix of port blocks and criminal penalties, while not killing cryptocurrency, would greatly hinder its overall utility and thus any associated fiscal value.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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> People deserve a way to send money without middlemen Why? Please don't just make unfounded assertions.

The free movement of capital is a long-established right in Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Single_Market#Capital

If you read what you linked, you'll find that this only applies for Euros within the Eurozone, with exceptions for capital controls in place.

Re: Bitconnect founder indicted in global $2.4B cryptocurrency scheme

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And fiat money can be used to deal drugs. I mean I don't defend crypto, the way things are going is that they'll be just as regulated and centralized as digital fiat is, and a lot of it is people getting rich, or hoping to - I mean I'm one of those people, still waiting for my handful of dogecoin to go up 10.000% so I can retire. But I also have a regular job, regular savings, and regular stonks because savings accou…

The exchanges can be regulated, but good luck trying to regulate a global peer to peer network!

Look at bittorrent. While it's impossible to kill it, targeting agregation platforms definitely made the protocol immensely less relevant than it was 20 years ago.
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