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Make Linux look like Windows 95

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Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#161
It's good, though like things that have done this since the end of the 90s, the details are quite there which leads to it not looking like Windows 95.

Especially, the spacing around the text labels on icons, the spacing on text around menu controls.

With a bit more work on details this could be really hard to tell the difference.

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

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> Is this ridiculous? Is this blasphemy? Is this… wonderful?

I was thinking of a use-case here, and blending in at the Starbucks wifi whilst you do your clandestine Linux activities is one good use-case. Reminds me of Kali Linux's Windows 10 theme that you can enable if you don't want to be judged as a 'hacker type' in public areas (or arouse suspicion).

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because we hit peak desktop right around Windows 2000. Just about everything since then has been a step backwards in speed and usability. The Mac Finder is a hot mess and seems to get worse with every release. The 964 different desktops available for Linux are in general a hodgepodge of slow impossible-to-use disasters. A notable exception is XFCE but it's a bit of a second-class citizen and even things in XFCE don't…

IMO the last decently desktop version of Windows was 7. After that, it was utterly ruined by the existence of touchscreens and Microsoft's insistence that they're the next big thing in computers. My main issue with current macOS is the combined toolbars and titles, including in finder. There's too much padding but then everything feels unnecessarily cramped. My second issue with modern macOS is their new icon system…

It's possible to disable toolbars and use a menu-bar/shortcut oriented workflow like in the Classic Mac OS.

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://github.com/jcs/progman Someone already has.

very nice

With the hotdog stand theme, no less!

The only crack in the spell is the program launcher. Apparently, it's a left-click on the desktop to get a menu, like in the old Stiletto program for WIN31: http://www.technofileonline.com/texts/tec092098.html

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#166
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Can anyone think of a reason why to do this? Apart from personal fun project, of course!

Because we hit peak desktop right around Windows 2000. Just about everything since then has been a step backwards in speed and usability. The Mac Finder is a hot mess and seems to get worse with every release. The 964 different desktops available for Linux are in general a hodgepodge of slow impossible-to-use disasters. A notable exception is XFCE but it's a bit of a second-class citizen and even things in XFCE don't…

My linux and freeBSD desktops at the time were faster/more responsive than my win2k one and I have plenty of choice for apps that would use less memory.

It is silly to compare to todays requirement. Nowadays system use more memory because we have more available.

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#167

This with WINE is what I think is the perfect combination of GUI and CLI... but as a long-time Windows user, several things stood out and made it look slightly off: the menu bar and padding around the icon labels is too tall the window borders are slightly too wide (compared to the default) scrollbar buttons shouldn't disable at end of travel sort direction indicator in header control (which first appeared in Win2k)…

Is "keming" a graphical pun on "kerning"?

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#168

I'll be the first to say the unpopular take on HN: I don't think Windows 95 looks that good (compared to today). I personally find more modern (like MacOS 10) styles to look the best, and flat designs to be just as usable as more skeumorphic ones. It seems to me that preference for UI styles is completely personal, probably being influenced by what OS we initially used. As someone (potentially a lot) younger than man…

I’m a greybeard, my first OS was either DOS or some OtherDOS, my first GUI environment was System 7 (Mac). The latter was mostly flat other than some dithered shading mostly on icons, significantly flatter than macOS is today. Even with MacOS 8 which gained more depth in its design I always found Windows’ hard bevels through 2k/ME overstated, and when I did use Windows I’d do my best to configure it to be as flat as…

You're probably on to something with that. My tastes are such that I'd love a System 6 version of this project. 7 always felt wrong, like they were forcing something the hardware wasn't ready to do yet.

Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#169

This with WINE is what I think is the perfect combination of GUI and CLI... but as a long-time Windows user, several things stood out and made it look slightly off: the menu bar and padding around the icon labels is too tall the window borders are slightly too wide (compared to the default) scrollbar buttons shouldn't disable at end of travel sort direction indicator in header control (which first appeared in Win2k)…

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Re: Make Linux look like Windows 95

#170

I'll be the first to say the unpopular take on HN: I don't think Windows 95 looks that good (compared to today). I personally find more modern (like MacOS 10) styles to look the best, and flat designs to be just as usable as more skeumorphic ones. It seems to me that preference for UI styles is completely personal, probably being influenced by what OS we initially used. As someone (potentially a lot) younger than man…

To be slightly obtuse: MacOS 10 is a really broad category, encompassing the last 20+ years of desktop Mac UI and including probably the peak of skeumorphic design. Personally I think Mac OS X hit its prime around 10.5-10.6 Leopard and Snow Leopard. But I know that's not everyone's cup of tea. :)

When I was using Windows 95 (and 98) the first thing I would do was change the colors to try to make my windows and buttons look less like a bunch of sidewalk blocks. When XP came out I was excited for the colorful, plasticky theme, but it hasn't aged well. Even Vista/7's glassy Aero has grown old, but for me Aero is still the best standard Windows theme (honorable mention to Royale and Watercolor). I think you're probably 100% right about the personal preference being the key here.

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