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Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by mike-cardwell »

dewiz wrote: post #38
mike-cardwell wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want Googles search results, but without all the interface spaff, use Scroogle: https://ssl.scroogle.org/

there is no cache link in there...

Scroogles lack of cache link isn't relevant to the comment I replied to.

"I am getting a hunch (just a vague feeling) that we might be approaching a time where a new, simpler search experience would pick up a lot of users - maybe amongst us HN/early adopters?"

If it was a top level comment, you'd have a point.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by jellicle »

icebraining wrote: post #34
mike-cardwell wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want Googles search results, but without all the interface spaff, use Scroogle: https://ssl.scroogle.org/

I really dislike services like that. Searches cost real money to Google, using them through that is almost stealing, in my opinion. Just use a different search engine. EDIT: I'd like if someone would reply if they disagree. Do you dispute that each search costs money to Google, or what?

Google clearly doesn't think that that Scroogle is a net minus to them, so why would you think so?

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by ukaszg »

wgx wrote: post #9

The OP raises a wider point: For the longest time google made good on their promise to keep their search page simple and easy to use. Now, bit by bit the search page is getting more filled up with cruft that you don't need and stuff that you do need gets removed. I am getting a hunch (just a vague feeling) that we might be approaching a time where a new, simpler search experience would pick up a lot of users - maybe…

It already is happening, look at ddg.gg

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by dave1010uk »

vasco wrote: post #28
dave1010uk wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://www.google.com/xhtml is a simple, less-cruft version. Unfortunately it doesn't have cache links.

Yes it does. Click options, a little dropdown appears with "Cached, Similar and Mobile formatted"

I couldn't find that, then I loaded it in Chrome and saw the "Options" links. Viewing it in Chrome also enables search suggestions.

I guess Google are sniffing for a WebKit useragent to detect a modern mobile browser.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by mhoofman »

meow wrote: post #47

I haven't noticed this till now and now I'm shocked. I hated the preview so much that I had to use a custom stylish addon script for firefox to block the annoying thing. Now that the cache is moved to preview, I'm stuck between getting annoyed with preview again or losing the cache links :(. I just don't understand what they were trying to solve with all these changes...

Google is starting to become a lot less minimal. I like their current design direction but as the OP stated in the article the cruft is starting to build up.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by abraham »

chalst wrote: post #45
cooperadymas wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When Google released Instant Preview they claimed it increases click through rates to a website. This makes me think a good number of customers do want it. Edit: here is the announcement: http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/11/beyond-instant-result... "In our testing, we’ve found that people who use Instant Previews are about 5% more likely to be satisfied with the results they click. "

people who use Instant Previews are about 5% more likely to be satisfied with the results they click. This sounds too little to justify a UI change that increases complexity.

5% of a billion monthly users is more then enough justification. At Google's scale fractions of a percent are often worth it.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by bradleyland »

jannes wrote: post #37

Just google for cache:http://www.example.com/ and it will take you directly to the cached site. This is particularly nice in combination with Chrome's omnibar where you just have to prepend "cache:" before the current URL, hit return, and it will automatically show the cached version of the page you are viewing.

Cool trick. Completely fails at discoverability though.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by sp332 »

haasted wrote: post #2

Another thing I find more annoying with the recent changes is that previously visited links are not marked as such any longer. When searching for the solution to a problem, it is quite nice to easily know which pages have already been visited using a different search query.

Are you using the HTTPS Everywhere plugin? Sometimes, the link is HTTP but your browser will go to HTTPS instead, so the original never gets marked as visited.

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by 12334454 »

jellicle wrote: post #52
icebraining wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really dislike services like that. Searches cost real money to Google, using them through that is almost stealing, in my opinion. Just use a different search engine. EDIT: I'd like if someone would reply if they disagree. Do you dispute that each search costs money to Google, or what?

Google clearly doesn't think that that Scroogle is a net minus to them, so why would you think so?

How do you know that they think that scroogle is not a net minus to them?

Re: Hey Google, I want my cache links back

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Post by sp332 »

zobzu wrote: post #49

i too dislike the previews. there's a few things that i find useful tho: - timeline - image search - cache (when it was there and working. lately, it didnt work aka it tries to fetch from the server and if its down, which is what i often use cache for, then it fails) hum, well thats it. special search commands used to be cool but they don't work so well now (i mean the filetype stuff and all). and the rest are just b…

For pages that are rendered using javascript, the text won't be in the cache. Sometimes clicking the "text-only" link at the top of the cached page helps.
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