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Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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Showing support for Ukraine is good, but blocking Russian visitors can only help Putin make ordinary Russians - which jad no say in his war policies - feel under siege, which is exactly what Putin wants.

It doesn’t matter it’s a dictatorship they are powerless.

How many dictators fell over the last few centuries?

dozens?maybe hundreds?

Putin will fall at some point, just like everyone before him, he's not a god, it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when.

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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Not a good idea to harass people because you don't like what their government is doing.

* if you don't like that their government is starting a war and murderring inocent people. it might be the only way substantial contrarian views can reach them, since major news media is strongly censored. I would make it strongly worded and optional, click here to continue if you don't support Putin's war.

btw there is options in the script to make it optional and with custom messages, or run custom code

as I don't speak russian I only put a very basic default message

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dude, they lock you in Russia up if you protest too much. Russia is a full-blown dictatorship now with Internet censorship, state-operated propaganda and other bells'n'whistles.

They lock you up in a lot of places for the same reasons. Even in the US or in Europe you might get killed at a protest. There is people protesting in Russia right now, no matter the risks, I don't see the harm in trying to increase their numbers.

Number of protesting people in Russia is a joke.

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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Not a good idea to harass people because you don't like what their government is doing.

Annoying them enough might push more people to protest. The softest option of the script is one alert() message once a day, that doesn't seems like harassment, the strictest option is to redirect you to a form on the russian government website, that's more debatable but that's up to you, you can also run custom code. If you're annoyed/blocked while trying access a website you like because your government is oppressiv…

And to visitors from North Korea you'd probably show 2 alerts, because they need a slighter stronger push to overcome their fear of being sent to labor camps. While you'll be watching news about their protests from a safe and comfy sofa.

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Annoying them enough might push more people to protest. The softest option of the script is one alert() message once a day, that doesn't seems like harassment, the strictest option is to redirect you to a form on the russian government website, that's more debatable but that's up to you, you can also run custom code. If you're annoyed/blocked while trying access a website you like because your government is oppressiv…

I suppose statistically speaking you might be right, though I find it hard to imagine what kind of person is going to risk beatings or years in prison or worse over a minor inconvenience like being unable to view their favourite website. I think depending on the person this could go either way. Perhaps they feel spurned, isolated, or blamed personally, and respond with anger.

if only one site is using it yes that's nothing

if dozens of websites do the same that might push people to protest

internet is a huge part of our lives, most people use it for hours everyday, it can be more than a minor inconvenience

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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How come no one ever does this when it's America killing innocent civilians? I don't support the war but I'm somewhat amazed at the reaction people are having to it. I don't think the plight of those in the middle east ever reverberated like this

I was too young when most American wars started but I would have done the same

if anything I resent more the US gov than the Russian gov, it's just that it's happening right now

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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I see many Russians already enraged about the war, some even doing protests against it. The fact is that most feel powerless and afraid against an autocratic government, and I feel it’s very hard to tell them to retaliate when their lives are on stake. (Maybe your country hasn’t experienced this yet, but hearing anecdotes from my country’s past I understand it’s really hard to mobilize when the next day you can be kidnapped by the secret police and end up in a prison cell where you get tortured to death.) Resistance is necessary, but it’s far easier said than done.

I just don’t see a point treating ordinary Russians as “sinful” because of this event. If you’re enforcing standards like these on everyone, then I guess the entire US population is also responsible for all the the war crimes and atrocities the country has done for decades. And I don’t want to do that; even if the current elite controlling the US has done some of the most atrocious things in history, I don’t think the people living there “deserve” worse lives because they haven’t retaliated.

Re: Show HN: Detect Russian visitors to block them and protest the war in Ukraine

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t matter it’s a dictatorship they are powerless.

How many dictators fell over the last few centuries? dozens?maybe hundreds? Putin will fall at some point, just like everyone before him, he's not a god, it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when.

Yeah, but stop pretending that the Russian people have any sort of influence at the moment.
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