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Iraq was a sovereign country. My point is that it is ok for "us" to invade sovereign countries for "reasons" but not for "them" for any reason. It is hypocritical.
Do you even know what the discussion was in this thread? Doesn't seem like it.
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Yes, but this quote leaves out the distinction they made. The GP goes on to note the difference caused by who the people in the region support. In real life, as far as I can tell, most people in that region ended up supporting independence or later accession to the US, which seems slightly more similar to the more complex Ukraine situation in the GP comment than Mexico simply wanting Texas back.
Most people in that region (Northern Mexico) were immigrants from the US.
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Do you even know what the discussion was in this thread? Doesn't seem like it.
I don't remember discussions about DDOSing US when they invaded Iraq. Do you?
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I'm not the person you asked, but the very well-known understanding, going back probably to Napoleon or earlier (among foreign policy experts), is that Ukraine has geopolitics. Geography is far more important to national power than non-experts realize. Without Ukraine's Crimean peninsula, Russia loses sea access to the Black Sea and thus the Mediterranean for their navy (and also for trade), which historically has be…
> Without Ukraine's Crimean peninsula, Russia loses sea access to the Black Sea and thus the Mediterranean for their navy (and also for trade), That's untrue. Sevastopol is the main port and naval base in the Black Sea, but Russia has plenty of others, and some are even undergoing expansion - Novorosiisk ( the backup one). Sevastopol is in Crimea, but was shared under an agreement between the Russian and Ukrainian na…
I have never seen someone claim that Novorosiisk was a sufficient port. Maybe it's a capacity issue?
> Sevastopol is in Crimea, but was shared under an agreement between the Russian and Ukrainian navies.
It is in a foreign country, an unfriendly one. That greatly limits Russia's freedom of action.
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> Napoleon and the Nazis both crossed through that region on their way to Russia Hitler yes. Napoleon no. The French neither attacked nor retreated through what is now Ukraine.
That naive geography positioning reasoning is far from reality. From that point of view Belorussia is more valuable. That "Mystery of Russian Soul" lies among the lines of "Kiev - mother of Russian cities" (term of 12th century Primary Chronicle) and too many other historical facts. Like Wild Steppe (south of Ukraine) were fought for and liberated from Crimean Khanate by Russian Army. Modern Kherson, Nikolayev, Sevas…
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Yes. It is. What's your point? If the truckers of Canada try to shut down the country over a vaccine mandate, seems the Russians should consider this a reason to do their best to shut down Russia.
My point is _look how well it went for them in an incredibly non authoritarian regime_. Look how effectively they changed policy! Look how little personal cost it has had! People like to act as though they'd be the person in the crowd who would rush a lone gunman first. Sure - you'll die, but the group will get the gunman and everything will be better. They definitely love to proclaim that some other bugger in that s…
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I don't remember discussions about DDOSing US when they invaded Iraq. Do you?
That's what I mean. I can see you are frustrated by downvotes and suspect this big anti-Russian conspiracy - but did it occur to you that people would respond differently if you actually read what threads are about rather than just spamming your talking points everywhere? Case in point: here, we talked about whether DDoSing is an escalation to an ongoing invasion or not.
P.S. I don't care about downvotes. I'm surprised the account is not shadow banned.
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That's what I mean. I can see you are frustrated by downvotes and suspect this big anti-Russian conspiracy - but did it occur to you that people would respond differently if you actually read what threads are about rather than just spamming your talking points everywhere? Case in point: here, we talked about whether DDoSing is an escalation to an ongoing invasion or not.
I'm talking about dehumanization, about "one standards for us vs. another standards for them" It is so ingrained that people like you, don't see anything wrong with it. P.S. I don't care about downvotes. I'm surprised the account is not shadow banned.
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My point is _look how well it went for them in an incredibly non authoritarian regime_. Look how effectively they changed policy! Look how little personal cost it has had! People like to act as though they'd be the person in the crowd who would rush a lone gunman first. Sure - you'll die, but the group will get the gunman and everything will be better. They definitely love to proclaim that some other bugger in that s…
Yeah but it was a very small minority that were protesting. Why? Because they were protesting a vaccine mandate which isn't literal evil. Every Russian that isn't a piece of shit should be protesting this and shutting down the entire country.
Just because a country claims to represent you, you don't have the moral obligation to oppose it while risking your personal wellbeing.
Just like nobody would even talk about Nord Stream 1, or EU didn't want to cancel Swift, and EU leader is literally talking about a 'pretty lit up building' in 'support of Ukraine' - while Ukraine is begging for weapons ... I'm wary that this is a little too late. If you want to help, call your Senator and demand that they supply Ukraine with as many Javelins and Stingers as they can, unlimited small arms, equipment…
Great comment, particularly your summation of the 1980s Cold War zeitgeist. It was very real for our generation and nuclear war drills and fallout shelters were part of the life for school kids in many places, especially my South Texas town with its (then) five military bases. I don’t agree with you on blockading Russia or escalating conflict over Ukraine but it will be a different situation if Russia makes a move on…
Every, little, thing you consume has a long supply chain of value add at each step, that's what makes it all work.
The reason that we have to care about Ukraine, is because otherwise, we are faced with a mother Cold War. That is very bad.
This war is a battle for the future of the world order, in which everyone is a part.
An easy victory for Putin almost guarantees the Chinese Generals will be pushing for Taiwan and Xi will listen.
A costly bloody failure an economic ruin and a political coup in Russia means Xi knows the price for failure in Taiwan will be his head, almost literally.
Aside from geopolitics, there is a moral issue in all of these situations - Ukranians deserve to not live behind another Iron Curtain. Just like Poles, Czech, E. Germans etc..