Could they be deploying nukes? Chernobyl would be the perfect cover.
lol Russia doesn't need to "deploy" nukes. They can hit any spot on the planet in a matter of minutes without moving anything at all.
Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
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Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
Eh, the soldiers know... it's for "power", against nato, and to get a bit more of the land. Look at every past conflict, every american soldier in iraq knew, that they were going in to get the oil, everything else was just propaganda for the taxpayers.
> Look at every past conflict, every american soldier in iraq knew, that they were going in to get the oil, everything else was just propaganda for the taxpayers. What do folks exactly mean by "get the oil" because it certainly wasn't for domestic consumption. About 72% of US foreign oil comes from Canada and Mexico - mostly Canada. The rest, a broad smattering of countries without any meaningful concentration. Iraq…
Oil is fungible so increasing or decreasing the global supply still impacts US prices. This is because unlike say concrete US suppliers can easily ship oil to the France if people in France are willing to pay more than US consumers.
Now that doesn’t mean the second Iraq war was about oil, but it does explain why we care more about the Middle East than say Africa.
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#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Look at every past conflict, every american soldier in iraq knew, that they were going in to get the oil, everything else was just propaganda for the taxpayers. What do folks exactly mean by "get the oil" because it certainly wasn't for domestic consumption. About 72% of US foreign oil comes from Canada and Mexico - mostly Canada. The rest, a broad smattering of countries without any meaningful concentration. Iraq…
Oil is fungible so increasing or decreasing the global supply still impacts US prices. This is because unlike say concrete US suppliers can easily ship oil to the France if people in France are willing to pay more than US consumers. Now that doesn’t mean the second Iraq war was about oil, but it does explain why we care more about the Middle East than say Africa.
That’s fine but the Iraqi government was already exporting their oil no?
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#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oil is fungible so increasing or decreasing the global supply still impacts US prices. This is because unlike say concrete US suppliers can easily ship oil to the France if people in France are willing to pay more than US consumers. Now that doesn’t mean the second Iraq war was about oil, but it does explain why we care more about the Middle East than say Africa.
That’s fine but the Iraqi government was already exporting their oil no?
There where sanctions between the first and second Iraq war, so somewhat. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctions_against_Iraq
Double checking and it does look like they increased after the war, though not to an extreme degree. Things had largely returned to normal by 2000. https://tradingeconomics.com/iraq/crude-oil-production
Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
#165Russians came from Belarus and with their tanks disrupt the radioactive soil and create dust [1]. The internal systems and the reactors themselves are in nominal state without changes. 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine-says-chernobyl-radia...
It's wet soil, there is no dust.
Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering that they're mostly just passing by, and that the levels are not really high, it won't be that bad. I didn't do the math, but the radiation levels for driving past there, or staying there for a day or two, would probably be very low, and comparable to a lot of other stuff we do without thinking (plane rides, xrays etc.)
They aren't just passing by. There's an ongoing fight for the control over this terrain. And, in the unlikely event of Russian troops retreating, I wouldn't put past Russia bombing it.
Considering the whole reason for this crisis is Russia's proximity to Ukraine, wouldn't that mean contamination spreading to Russia too?
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#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
To add to the list of unfiltered OSINT straight from Ukraine/Russia, Telegram channels/groups are invaluable (but treat everything as unconfirmed rumors until confirmed elsewhere): - https://t.me/uniannet - https://t.me/ukrpravda_news - https://t.me/istorijaoruzija - https://t.me/dumskaya_net - https://t.me/idelator Beware, some of these are literally Russian propaganda, so again, don't take anything being said/share…
> don't take anything being said/shared as truth until verified elsewhere. Then what is the possible value of following it? I spent an hour or so trying to get updates on twitter and spent the whole time flagging the same fake videos posted over and over.
> Then what is the possible value of following it?
The same value you get from following any other news source?
Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
#168Be careful out there S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Hehe. I had a laugh. For those who miss the reference, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalker_(1979_film) + https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
#169Very likely a dumb question, but would the Russians be carrying depleted uranium ammunition? Could that be what's causing the detectors to see spikes?
Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
One might argue that’s a price you pay when murdering innocent civilians in land that isn’t yours, no?
Not to be a apologist of what Russia is doing (really really against the current invasion/occupation) but from what we've seen around social media, it's not clear that the actual soldiers on the ground understand that they aren't "liberating" the Ukrainians from actual Nazis. They are fed misinformation on a daily basis and at least some of them see themselves as the "good guys". It does not excuse anything really, b…
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