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Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

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Post by baybal2 »

dmitrygr wrote: post #4
belltaco wrote: post #2

Has anyone or is anyone working on displaying a HTML header above sites(or kind of an 'accept cookies' type of HTML UI) for Russian geoblocks that says something like "Please consider telling your government to stop the war on Ukraine". I read earlier that Pornhub blocked Russian IPs completely and is showing a message but total blocking comes with its own downsides.

Protesting against the government in Russia is a jailable offense. People have families, kids, lives. To most citizens of Russia, this war is pointless and they do not want it. But actually protesting it lands them in jail, possibly their families too. Are you suggesting that they abandon all of that just cause a website tells them that? Or is it your point that collective punishment works (it doesn't)? Or maybe you…

Cynism, and cowardise is a diet of tyrants.

Even 1% of Russian male population is a number bigger than Russia's combat troops number, and 10% will overwhelm the full force of the military.

If Moscow will suffer a nuclear strike by NATO to decapitate the Russian government, and prevent a coordinated first strike, these people will have no kids to care about.

This is what people's power can do: https://youtu.be/OCorwQTLZXE https://youtu.be/N7DrIUH64yI https://youtu.be/NhlMCPb4ZM8

The advancing crowd on the video been shot at by 5 RPGs, hail of sniper, and machinegun fire just few minutes prior, and they still routed the government special forces with just sticks, and rocks.

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#13

Post by marginalia_nu »

baybal2 wrote: post #11
dmitrygr wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Protesting against the government in Russia is a jailable offense. People have families, kids, lives. To most citizens of Russia, this war is pointless and they do not want it. But actually protesting it lands them in jail, possibly their families too. Are you suggesting that they abandon all of that just cause a website tells them that? Or is it your point that collective punishment works (it doesn't)? Or maybe you…

Cynism, and cowardise is a diet of tyrants. Even 1% of Russian male population is a number bigger than Russia's combat troops number, and 10% will overwhelm the full force of the military. If Moscow will suffer a nuclear strike by NATO to decapitate the Russian government, and prevent a coordinated first strike, these people will have no kids to care about. This is what people's power can do: https://youtu.be/OCorwQT…

If Moscow suffers a nuclear strike by NATO, none of us will have kids to care about.

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#14

Post by thijsvandien »

aluminum96 wrote: post #12

As well intentioned as this seems, it strikes me as a bit tone deaf. Ukrainians are hiding in bomb shelters, not backing up bulk data. I struggle to understand in what manner this helps.

This is about them not losing their backups exactly because they have other things on their mind (than paying for storage).

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#15

Post by oh_sigh »

aluminum96 wrote: post #12

As well intentioned as this seems, it strikes me as a bit tone deaf. Ukrainians are hiding in bomb shelters, not backing up bulk data. I struggle to understand in what manner this helps.

You're struggling to understand because you misunderstand the situation and are probably relying on the HN title instead of reading the 3 short paragraphs in the link.

1) 45,000,000 people are not in bomb shelters.

2) Reading the very short post in the link, you can see that this is more about not deleting the data of Ukrainians that is already on tarsnap if they aren't able to provide payment because of the war.

> The last thing I want to do is delete what may be someone's last copy of important data because they can't pay a bill while running for their lives.

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#16

Post by jka »

This is charitable of cpervica and tarsnap; that said, for many people, it's probably easier and safer (and you'll receive greater legal protection, long-term) to proceed by uploading your (even pre-encrypted) documents to Google Drive or a similar cloud-based storage system.

Don't get me wrong - I like encryption and pushing the envelope for what's possible in terms of keeping content private for the general public. But I get a weird sense that this is like some kind of phishing-for-valuable-(meta)data expedition.

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#17

Post by jacquesm »

dmitrygr wrote: post #6
reed1234 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How can someone protest an authoritarian regime without putting themselves at risk?

Perhaps they decided that their children's lives are more important than your views of their regime? Until THEIR children/families/lives are threatened, their call is reasonable. Would you sacrifice your life to save 10 people you've never heard of in a faraway place? If you claim yes (a lie), sign your donor card and eat a bottle of aspirin. If you are truthful and you answer no, you know how Russians currently feel…

> Until THEIR children/families/lives are threatened, their call is reasonable.

It may well come to that if this isn't dealt with inside Russia, that's the real trade-off.

> They do not support this war, but the only thing they can do has no payoff and a high cost to each of them

Not as high as the cost to Ukrainians. And that is what matters right now.

To do nothing is to effectively support the war, it may sound crude but that's how it is right now and only Russia can change that without further bloodshed, any other way forward will be far worse in the longer term. To put it bluntly: Russia never really properly got rid of their past, and now more than ever is the moment to consider that, do you want to continue to be on the wrong side of history or do you clean house? Both of these have extremely high price tags attached, the time for easy choices has run out, and some of our possible futures are no future at all.

Some words for contemplation:

"The Only Thing Necessary for the Triumph of Evil is that Good Men Do Nothing"

The meaning is clear I think (even if the attribution is not), sometimes inaction is also an action.

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#18

Post by trhway »

belltaco wrote: post #2

Has anyone or is anyone working on displaying a HTML header above sites(or kind of an 'accept cookies' type of HTML UI) for Russian geoblocks that says something like "Please consider telling your government to stop the war on Ukraine". I read earlier that Pornhub blocked Russian IPs completely and is showing a message but total blocking comes with its own downsides.

looks like everybody is chiming in :) that OnlyFans creator runs 50% discount for Ukrainians

https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/35675

>Pornhub blocked Russian IPs completely

well, as the "replacement of imported goods and services with domestic equivalents" which Russia usually tries to do in response to sanctions, i guess Russia will have to dump the anti-gay laws and legalize same-sex marriage :) (the original joke is by Zelensky back in 2014 in response to Russian forces in Crimea - in Russian https://youtu.be/_zMEO6IiokU?t=185 )

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#19

Post by jacquesm »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #13
baybal2 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cynism, and cowardise is a diet of tyrants. Even 1% of Russian male population is a number bigger than Russia's combat troops number, and 10% will overwhelm the full force of the military. If Moscow will suffer a nuclear strike by NATO to decapitate the Russian government, and prevent a coordinated first strike, these people will have no kids to care about. This is what people's power can do: https://youtu.be/OCorwQT…

If Moscow suffers a nuclear strike by NATO, none of us will have kids to care about.

Are you suggesting NATO would commit a nuclear first strike against Moscow?

That's beyond insane. I can see Putin doing something like that but NATO not in a lifetime.

Re: Free Tarsnap Backups for Ukrainians

#20

Post by [deleted] »

jka wrote: post #16

This is charitable of cpervica and tarsnap; that said, for many people, it's probably easier and safer (and you'll receive greater legal protection, long-term) to proceed by uploading your (even pre-encrypted) documents to Google Drive or a similar cloud-based storage system. Don't get me wrong - I like encryption and pushing the envelope for what's possible in terms of keeping content private for the general public.…

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