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Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#91
Theoretically, the main point here is that Facebook has an independent fact checker program, and some of those fact checkers rated Russian media posts (which would lead to a big scary overlay and a reduction in views)

I'd guess they would have used some other excuse to block Facebook sooner than later anyways though.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#93
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A good tactic would be to point out to Russians that their government is censoring political things for them. They like to think they are free and above the hypocrisy of the west. But the key thing is the West allows it's citizens to criticise itself. The Russians do not have that freedom. It's basically becoming like China in the way of censorship and lack of freedom, to protect it's citizens and the fatherland. To…

Heh, "point to Russians". I have several friends in Moscow, and up until the last few days they were in complete denial about Putin's intentions or troops buildup. There were memes, jokes, etc. The propaganda inside Russia is very strong. Russians need sanctions, they need to start suffering (economically or otherwise). And then maybe they'll wake up.

Denial doesn’t mean they were influenced by propaganda. Invasion just didn’t make any sense and even among the opposition there was a belief that Putin is evil but rational.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#94

A good tactic would be to point out to Russians that their government is censoring political things for them. They like to think they are free and above the hypocrisy of the west. But the key thing is the West allows it's citizens to criticise itself. The Russians do not have that freedom. It's basically becoming like China in the way of censorship and lack of freedom, to protect it's citizens and the fatherland. To…

> In repressive regimes there is no freedom to protest.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_and_dissent_in_China

"The number of annual protests has grown steadily since the early 1990s, from approximately 8,700 "mass group incidents" in 1993[1] to over 87,000 in 2005."

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Maybe I'm paranoid, but I assume 100% of Russian content on Reddit is manufactured. Their government has just invested so much into psyops that it successfully undermined legitimate engagement (for me).

Russia has a population of a 140 million people. It is utterly preposterous to believe not a single one uses Reddit AND doesn't agree with their government. Not to mention, where do you think those people would go? Maybe Reddit? Maybe that actually makes a ton of sense?

I'm confused; where did I say I believed literally zero people from Russia who also disapprove of Putin use Reddit? I said I assume that to be the case, which is foundationally different; I don't know of a way to tell which is which, so in order to predict outcomes most accurately, I default to the position that I don't accept Reddit as a source for this.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#96
More countries should follow suit, I'm tired of seeing media censored by Facebook, not to mention Youtube and Twitter in Northern Europe too. Platforms should be just that, platforms, not outlets. Now I understand many of you will want to point out that "Russia is worse" and that it is somehow different. I don't care who is worse or if Russia does it for bad reasons, it is bad enough over here that it is also the correct choice for my nation and your nations.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#97

A good tactic would be to point out to Russians that their government is censoring political things for them. They like to think they are free and above the hypocrisy of the west. But the key thing is the West allows it's citizens to criticise itself. The Russians do not have that freedom. It's basically becoming like China in the way of censorship and lack of freedom, to protect it's citizens and the fatherland. To…

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

#98

More countries should follow suit, I'm tired of seeing media censored by Facebook, not to mention Youtube and Twitter in Northern Europe too. Platforms should be just that, platforms, not outlets. Now I understand many of you will want to point out that "Russia is worse" and that it is somehow different. I don't care who is worse or if Russia does it for bad reasons, it is bad enough over here that it is also the cor…

They are not platforms though. A small part of them is a platform, but the rest is private entity with interests.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Heh, "point to Russians". I have several friends in Moscow, and up until the last few days they were in complete denial about Putin's intentions or troops buildup. There were memes, jokes, etc. The propaganda inside Russia is very strong. Russians need sanctions, they need to start suffering (economically or otherwise). And then maybe they'll wake up.

>The propaganda inside Russia is very strong. Russians need sanctions, they need to start suffering (economically or otherwise). And then maybe they'll wake up. What makes you sure that it won't cement their position even more? Western countries hurting russia's economy via sanctions basically confirms the "evil westerners" narrative.

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Theoretically, the main point here is that Facebook has an independent fact checker program, and some of those fact checkers rated Russian media posts (which would lead to a big scary overlay and a reduction in views) I'd guess they would have used some other excuse to block Facebook sooner than later anyways though.

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