Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
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Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#2Then if they did join NATO, then Russia would declare an attack on NATO?
Or the more likely explanation is that this threat makes it less likely NATO would accept them.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#3"We'll invade you if you join NATO" loses its power a bit when you invade people who haven't joined NATO.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#4It's like Russia was expecting to be able to conduct the largest aggressive conventional military operation in Europe since WW2 and not completely flip the apple cart of the global order.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#5As I wrote in another thread today, current EU and US leaders are asleep at the wheel. We have a different dynamic. Talking about sanctions looks almost pathetic.
The analogy here is, you live in a community and one of your neighbors just lost it completely and is shooting and shelling another neighbor. Not to raise the hostilities...you scream at him he wont be invited anymore for the Christmas party and you will complain about the noise to the gated community administration /s
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#6It's like Russia was expecting to be able to conduct the largest aggressive conventional military operation in Europe since WW2 and not completely flip the apple cart of the global order.
It's starting to look like Putin may have miscalculated here.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#7Now is probably the only opportunity they will get. With much of Russia's army tied up in Ukraine they could join in secret overnight and in the morning the rest of NATO could land huge numbers of airborne reinforcements and the whole thing would be a fait accompli. The only response Putin could make would be to trigger WW3.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#8At this point is there anything substantive any country could do at all that wouldn't irritate Russia? It seems as if the powers that be have become so utterly delicate that even something as innocuous as Sweden joining NATO is deemed to be advancing far beyond the "proper" limits.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#9Well then, Congratulations Russia! You have just given the Swedish NATO-movement more support than they could have ever mustered themselves!
I have always been very sceptical of NATO membership, but the last month I changed opinion.
Re: Finland or Sweden joining NATO would spark Russian response, Russia warns
#10Now is probably the only opportunity they will get. With much of Russia's army tied up in Ukraine they could join in secret overnight and in the morning the rest of NATO could land huge numbers of airborne reinforcements and the whole thing would be a fait accompli. The only response Putin could make would be to trigger WW3.
Making triggering WW3 his only remaining choice does not sound like a good idea