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Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by iso1631 »

agumonkey wrote: post #9
chrononaut wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft and Apple perhaps, but I suspect it's advantageous for Facebook, Twitter, and Google to remain otherwise the state propaganda apparatus would only get stronger.

It's not working great it seems. A few russian kids came on reddit expressing no hatred against ukraine, but being powerless due to the oligarchic structure of Russian politics. It might be a fake account I don't know. But with the recent risky protests.. actually I don't know what to say. It seems that propaganda is somehow deeper on non Russian groups. Lots of people in other countries are rooting for russia based…

> Lots of people in other countries are rooting for russia based on west past failures.

In the UK that's Farage and Corbyn, one was a major architect of brexit and one was almost prime minister

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by konart »

keewee7 wrote: post #18

In the 2000s and 2010s Russia lowered bandwidth on Western social media (and webmail) platforms to promote local alternatives. It worked and most Russians are not on Facebook, twitter and reddit. However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia.

>However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia.

I'd say Instagram is as popular. Not sure about other services.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by jonas21 »

deutschewelle wrote: post #24
pyronik19 wrote: post #15

No fan of Russia, but to pretend that facebook is some neutral platform that isn't trying to push their own political agenda is naive.

Not sure why this comment is being downvoted, there is credible evidences that support this view, if not obvious from the US elctions

Strangely, it was obvious to both sides in the US election that Facebook was pushing the agenda of the other side.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by awb »

agumonkey wrote: post #33
givemeethekeys wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the US conflicts in the past 10 years were in the era of ubiquitous video streaming.

I'm sorry if I look stupid (too many crysis I guess) but I fail to remember what conflict started between the US and another nation in this decade.

The US was involved in military operations on the ground in Iraq & Afghanistan and in the air in Libya & Syria in the 2010s. Not sure about boots on the ground vs. ISIS.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by vbezhenar »

konart wrote: post #42
keewee7 wrote: post #18

In the 2000s and 2010s Russia lowered bandwidth on Western social media (and webmail) platforms to promote local alternatives. It worked and most Russians are not on Facebook, twitter and reddit. However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia.

>However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia. I'd say Instagram is as popular. Not sure about other services.

Tik Tok is popular among young people.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by kobalsky »

asplake wrote: post #3

Honestly, I just wish Facebook, Twitter, Google, and even Microsoft and Apple just withdrew. The Russian government has only contempt for them anyway

cold war CIA wouldn't have dreamed of having a propaganda machine like social networks provide.

it's a new war theater, they are not going away.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by throwaway_4ever »

erichocean wrote: post #30
Ambolia wrote: post #5

The internet just feels so small currently. The technology seems to be all here to make it distributed and open it up, but the convenience of centralization and the lack of network-effects of the distributed solutions seem to be the bottle-neck that stop them from gaining traction.

If someone invented an algorithm to enable network effects on decentralized networks, they'd secure a place in computing history.

Open protocols (HTTP and email) have even greater network effects than closed solutions (Facebook). However, you still need a strong push in the beginning, which protocols don’t usually have the funding while VC burns $100 million in an initial push.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by graphpercolator »

TameAntelope wrote: post #21
agumonkey wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not working great it seems. A few russian kids came on reddit expressing no hatred against ukraine, but being powerless due to the oligarchic structure of Russian politics. It might be a fake account I don't know. But with the recent risky protests.. actually I don't know what to say. It seems that propaganda is somehow deeper on non Russian groups. Lots of people in other countries are rooting for russia based…

Maybe I'm paranoid, but I assume 100% of Russian content on Reddit is manufactured. Their government has just invested so much into psyops that it successfully undermined legitimate engagement (for me).

Russia has a population of a 140 million people.

It is utterly preposterous to believe not a single one uses Reddit AND doesn't agree with their government.

Not to mention, where do you think those people would go?

Maybe Reddit? Maybe that actually makes a ton of sense?

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by graphpercolator »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #8
chrononaut wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft and Apple perhaps, but I suspect it's advantageous for Facebook, Twitter, and Google to remain otherwise the state propaganda apparatus would only get stronger.

Aren't Russians mostly on VK and Yandex anyway?

Yea of a 140 million people they all agree with Putin. 0% disagree with Putin and even if they did 0% would use Reddit to communicate with people outside of Russia.

Come on.

Re: Russia to restrict Facebook access for 'censoring' its media

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Post by rossmohax »

vbezhenar wrote: post #45
konart wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>However Russia failed to suppress and replicate YouTube that is the only massively popular Western platform in Russia. I'd say Instagram is as popular. Not sure about other services.

Tik Tok is popular among young people.

TikTok is not western though
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