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Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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I bet the 1 on the phone is for "one more thing"; they're going to call up Steve Jobs and talk with him since he can't be there live on stage.

I read it to mean: only one new phone. I hope you're right, an iPhone 5 and a 4s would be big news.

Definitely "one new (unread notification in) phone", in iOS UX lingo.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Is the iPhone 4 still the same price that it was when it came out? This reminds me of April 2010 when I wrote a couple articles about how Apple is fairly unique among computer manufacturers for charging enormous prices for old hardware and going so long without update or a price drop. In April 2010, depending on the week, you bought a Macbook Pro that was miserably outdated or a Macbook Pro that was very modern for p…

The thing geeks don't realize is that Apple doesn't sell "hardware" - they sell an appliance. This year's GE dishwasher won't get cheaper as the year goes on - it'll just get replaced by a newer model at some point. Similarly, a Toyota Prius won't get cheaper as the year wears on, it'll also just get replaced by a new model, at the same price (with the requisite temporary discount to clear old stock). And the other t…

It's a good point, but then Apple should name the iPhone along the lines of "iPhone (fourth generation)" and not "iPhone 4" for example.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Might be too much speculation, but the first thing I thought when I saw the maps icon was a hint that they'd reveal their own non-google maps system.

Pretty unlikely, we probably would have seen some slip-ups in the iOS 5 beta if that was the case. As it stands they are still steadily improving the existing Maps with Google services, adding alternate routes and whatnot.

Sadly, Apple do not yet have their own orbital launch capability... though maybe it's not so far fetched looking at the characters that do!

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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I bet the 1 on the phone is for "one more thing"; they're going to call up Steve Jobs and talk with him since he can't be there live on stage.

I read it to mean: only one new phone. I hope you're right, an iPhone 5 and a 4s would be big news.

It may be that from a media point of view they're not pushing the 4S (if it exists) as new.

You hype the new phone with the big price tag, you mention in passing the cheaper low end model.

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Same here (different country, different phone companies). Everyone is obviously pushing hard to sell their iphone4-stock now , before Joe Sixpack gets told by the news-anchor to delay his purchase for the iphone5.

i get that they want to push it and get rid of their stock, that's just good business. what i don't like is that they specifically go out of their way to lie about it. they don't have to mention the time, they could just be pushing features or style. there's plenty of other ways to sell iphones.

It's not lying though. It is true that "There's [there has] never been a better time to buy an iPhone 4". It's not saying "There will never be a better time..." which would be indefensible.

It may not be the best time to buy an iPhone given that a version greater than 4 will be released, but if you specifically want version 4, then now is a good a time as any time in the past.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Then they might justifiably reply "So, you don't care about the product at all, and just care about the way the company presents itself?"

Attention to detail in one spot makes it more likely there's attention to detail elsewhere.

Or less likely, depending on the spots in question. For example you might take inordinate amounts of attention to detail in form factor and aesthetic appeal as emblematic of a fundamentally superficial approach to product development, and that it is emblematic that that will always win out over say actually better performing computers with actually better hardware.

Like in this instance, and you'd be right, too.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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They may not, if he looks like the TMZ photos.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that photo was proven photoshopped within hours: http://conservativepapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Ste...

I loathe giving this any more attention but I feel it is important to say that this is in no way a proof.

It’s very easy to look for supposed marks of manipulation and very easy to find many of them – even if nothing was actually manipulated. There are just too many weird artifacts and optical effects, not all of them are marks of manipulation.

What you linked to isn’t a smoking gun in any way. It’s utterly unconvincing.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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The thing geeks don't realize is that Apple doesn't sell "hardware" - they sell an appliance. This year's GE dishwasher won't get cheaper as the year goes on - it'll just get replaced by a newer model at some point. Similarly, a Toyota Prius won't get cheaper as the year wears on, it'll also just get replaced by a new model, at the same price (with the requisite temporary discount to clear old stock). And the other t…

It's a good point, but then Apple should name the iPhone along the lines of "iPhone (fourth generation)" and not "iPhone 4" for example.

They more or less do - especially when you look at what the rest of the competition is doing:

Take Samsung for example. They had a good branding opportunity with Galaxy S. Galaxy S - the flagship, followed by Galaxy S2, S3, and so on.

Except their marketing department took a dive off the deep-end. Instead of marketing by this simple to understand name, they now have the Galaxy R, Samsung Hercules, Samsung Attain, Epic 4G... all of which are basically the same product!

Ditto goes for HTC. No fucking idea how to tell which is the low or high-end model from the naming scheme, and no way to tell which model came before another.

Or, leaving the mobile space for one second, Apple's offerings are simple: you have the MacBook Pro, which is updated from time to time. If you look at Apple's support site the naming is pretty clear: "MacBook Pro (early 2008)" is simple to understand - and a later MBP is unequivocally a better machine than a prior one.

Compare with, say, Toshiba. In their "Satellite" line (what does that mean anyways? which line would I want to purchase? The naming gives zero hints), they have the L635, L730, E305, L740, and P740.

What the fucking fuck? Do you want your customers to go get a PhD just to figure out your offerings or what?

Sony used to be much worse, but in recent years seem to have pulled their head out of their ass and started naming their products with some semblance of sanity.

In anycase - the iPhone's naming scheme is incredibly simple to understand - perhaps it could be even better, but still miles and miles ahead of the competition.

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I've never personally been able to get any use out of the voice control feature of iOS. In fact, after trying it a few times, the only time I invoke it now is by accident. I hope that Apple kicks some major ass on this feature and creates another "how did I ever live without this" moment.

When I can ask my smartphone "what time is the next bus arriving?" without having to touch it, that's when it's a really smart phone. I hope it's that level of a kick.

Google's voice search has been at that level for a long time now, but I get the impression most people have never tried it.
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