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Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by ols »

throwawayboise wrote: post #48
yabones wrote: post #41

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The last reactor to shutdown was Unit 3 in December 2000. The whole facility has been undergoing cleanup and decommissioning since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_Nuclear_Power_Plant#...

Drifting slightly off topic but it always seemed amazing to me that they kept the other reactors running even in the immediate aftermath of the Unit 4 explosion. Literally just down the hall, units 1, 2, and 3 ran for years afterwards. These were all manually controlled reactors that needed humans in the control room. No "working from home "on these.

Unit 3 was just behind a wall, but 1 and 2 were quite far away (300-500m).

They all had multiple serious incidents before and after the Chernobyl Disaster (1982 - partial core meltdown at #1, 1984 - incidents at #3 and #4, 1991 - fire at the turbine hall of #2). This was the most unsafe nuclear power plant in the whole USSR and the operators were in grave danger all the time.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by borgchick »

So are soldiers from both sides, either on foot or in vehicles in full radiation suits??? If not, aren't they at severe risk of radiation poisoning (in addition to rapid on set lead poisoning)?

Not to mention if they continue past chernobyl into other regions, aren't they just gonna carry all that radiation with them?

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by Denvercoder9 »

deutschewelle wrote: post #53
awb wrote: post #50

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What are the environmental / health risks of this radioactive dust getting kicked up?

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> One thing I understand about Western European culture is that they will never tell you no outright as it is rude to do so. Any sort of hesitancy is to be construed as a no and unlike America/East Germany or Scandinavian countries tough to get a straight answer most of the time.

This is a ridiculous overgeneralization. If you compare e.g. the Dutch with the Southern U.S., you'll find the Dutch are much more eager to directly tell it how it is.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by jaywalk »

blablabla123 wrote: post #55
jaywalk wrote: post #28

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All reactors at Chernobyl have been shutdown since 2000. I have been amazed lately at how many people are unaware of this and think Chernobyl is still an operating nuclear power plant.

It's quite crazy though that they left it running for 14 years after making the area around it inhabitable and causing fallout over whole Europe

It is pretty crazy. I would assume that they really needed the energy it was producing, although I admit that I don't have much further knowledge on the topic.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by deutschewelle »

Denvercoder9 wrote: post #63
deutschewelle wrote: post #53

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> One thing I understand about Western European culture is that they will never tell you no outright as it is rude to do so. Any sort of hesitancy is to be construed as a no and unlike America/East Germany or Scandinavian countries tough to get a straight answer most of the time. This is a ridiculous overgeneralization. If you compare e.g. the Dutch with the Southern U.S., you'll find the Dutch are much more eager to…

well as long as the contrasts are obvious, generalizing was the intent

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by swamp40 »

deutschewelle wrote: post #53
awb wrote: post #50

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What are the environmental / health risks of this radioactive dust getting kicked up?

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>> if Russia is kicked off SWIFT, it would be removing any sort of restraint they've displayed so far.

I don't think they care much about that. They have already assumed they would be. There are several other options for them. It most hurts Europe and their investments/payments, as well as our intelligence tracking of high net worth individuals.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by leephillips »

deutschewelle wrote: post #53
awb wrote: post #50

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What are the environmental / health risks of this radioactive dust getting kicked up?

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> There is blame on both sides

Say what now?

> One thing I understand about Western European culture is that they will never tell you no outright as it is rude to do so.

Generally speaking, no, this is not one thing you understand about W. E. culture.

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by tejohnso »

deutschewelle wrote: post #53
awb wrote: post #50

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What are the environmental / health risks of this radioactive dust getting kicked up?

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> Japan is the worst outright making you question even a solid yes mixed with non-subtle and impossible to read vocal/posture

How can it be both non-subtle and yet impossible to read?

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by newsclues »

yaris wrote: post #34
newsclues wrote: post #20

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You hold a position to launch attacks from that are hard to counter attack. Setup your artillery there and they can’t just shell the area back out of fear of causing a nuclear disaster. IMO, the UN should have stepped in and taken control of the nuclear zone. There is a global risk here.

From some russian sources I’ve read that Chernobyl has been taken by Belarus soldiers, not russians. Because Belarus guys are sensitive to anything going on around Chernobyl and want to secure the site.

The Russias attack Kiev came from Belarus.

If Belarusian soldiers are involved that is a greater escalation that simply allowing Russia to invade another nation through their territory.

Belarus being a Russian pawn at the moment anything is possible I guess

Re: Radiation spikes in Chernobyl

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Post by anshumankmr »

dtx1 wrote: post #12
anshumankmr wrote: post #2

There's a followup tweet with a possible explanation: https://twitter.com/WillyWaugh/status/1497157722663391233 Though I am not 100% sure of this since the USSR had removed the topsoil back then but I suppose more of it could have spewed back in to the soil over time.

I was in chernobyl, you could pick up reactor core debris everywhere there by just looking for it with a dosimeter for a few minutes.

Even now?
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