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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by andruby »

brigandish wrote: post #351
andruby wrote: post #318

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Europe has some gas reserves. We could "see out winter if Russian imports stop" [0]. I personally don't mind wearing an extra sweater or jacket inside if it stops Europe from paying billions to Gazprom. > While a complete loss of Russian gas imports, currently making up almost half of Germany’s gas needs, “will lead to bottlenecks in some European countries”, supply shortages “would be limited to up to 10% of demand”…

You don't mind wearing a sweater but I'm willing to bet you're not elderly, nor poor, nor living in substandard housing. Any of those would make your sacrifice simply one more example of an action that hurts the most vulnerable in society while claiming to be a good thing.

I'm sorry to have triggered you. I didn't mean to sound like that was a sacrifice.

Elderly and poor will be hurt the most, that is true. If the source I linked to is correct, it claims it would only impact 10% of demand. While I don't know what that would look like in practice. I sincerely hope (and expect) that it would not lead to anyone, including the vulnerable, freezing to death, or getting seriously ill.

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Post by FollowingTheDao »

wiseowise wrote: post #495
trasz wrote: post #464

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What you’ve just said isn’t any different from Russian propaganda.

Uhuh, isn't any different from calling Ukraine fiction, that it basically never existed, everyone is neonazi. Annexing Crimea, East of country and then attacking under deluaion claims.

> everyone is neonazi

No, but to say that the instigators of anti-russian sentiment in Ukraine are not mostly Neo-nazi's is ignorant. These articles go back years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SBo0akeDMY

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/10/azov-far-right...

https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/136008/commentary_56.pdf

https://euromaidanpress.com/tags/azov-battalion/page/2/

https://www.jstor.org/stable/40871070

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Post by cjbgkagh »

oneoff786 wrote: post #517
throwrqX wrote: post #507

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Well in a perfect world yes we would. However the world is not perfect, and most "white" people so to speak care more about white people than some Muslims in the Middle East or some Africans in Africa, that's just the reality of the situation. Hence why they're more interested in what goes on in European countries than in other ones.

So we go in, kill everyone doing the genocide, leave, and then another group takes power and starts doing more genocide. Do we do it again?

Genocide the genociders... what could go wrong

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Post by HWR_14 »

sofixa wrote: post #316
HWR_14 wrote: post #46

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John Oliver found his daughters dance/gymnastic performance and aired it a few years ago as part of something. For the daughter of a billionaire dictator, John Oliver made her sound fairly normal.

Do you have a link or name or number of the episode? > For the daughter of a billionaire dictator, John Oliver made her sound fairly normal Most people are fairly normal :) Not every rich powerful kid goes full Uday Hussein.

I was able to find the number of the episode! It was S04E02, which would have been the episode on Putin. Which I guess makes sense.

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Post by Merem »

_joel wrote: post #527
Merem wrote: post #513

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I mean, do you deny that the Ukrainian army has been shelling civilians in the separatist regions? A fellow countryman moved there since no one of the press bothered to report over the years and she confirmed it. And even apart from that, it's not like reports from the OSCE and UN aren't available. Furthermore, considering that the Ukrainian government enacted language and racial laws (can be easily looked up) and em…

The press have been reporting the fighting in Donetsk and Luhansk since it started 8 years ago, what are you talking about?

Depends on which country you are from. There wasn't exactly reporting from it (at best only at the beginning) here which is why she moved there. Additionally, now the general tenor is that "Putin" invaded Ukraine basically without any reason even though there were several said by him. He even warned the Ukraine of consequences should they continue with the aggression when Russia formally acknowledged the separatist regions. In response, the Ukraine even increased the aggression (shelling etc).

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Post by pelasaco »

sorenjan wrote: post #441
pelasaco wrote: post #398

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I'm not an expert, but sounds to me that Germany halting the nord stream pipeline, influenced Putin to go over the already under russian controlled area. I ask myself if removing Russia from SWIFT wouldn't make Putin just keep rolling over until the German border. In another hand, from the strategic point of view, Europe should have one more economical pressure option in case Russia doesn't stop in Kiew, and the SWIF…

Putin's speech about a military operation in Ukraine was recorded before Germany halted Nord Stream 2. What happens now has been planned for months. Not sure what you mean by SWIFT being the last option before war, war is happening right now.

Yes and No. For Putin, the control and Donetsk and Luhansk was already planned. Everyone in the intelligence scene could note some details like: The Russian Tanks with extra fuel tank and the national guard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Guard_of_Russia presence in the region. What came next, IMO, was decided after the Nord Stream 2 halting. Russia will be now in the Polish border and therefore it gets more power in the negotiation table.

> Not sure what you mean by SWIFT being the last option before war, war is happening right now.

The War isn't happening for NATO. NATO as we all know won't do anything regarding the Ukraine invasion. If Russia starts to bulk troops on the Polish border - or any other NATO member, EU will try to solve it diplomatically using the SWIFT option before really going to War.

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Post by belter »

Chris2048 wrote: post #516
belter wrote: post #427

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What politicking there is, on a active and retired US military travelling to Russian since 2013, having high level contacts with the Russian government, and then lying about it, to its own country Law enforcement? https://www.justice.gov/archives/sco/file/1015126/download

Again, these characterisations are easy. They are made on both sides. I can construct a similar line about the FBI incitement, casually throwing in disputed or hard-to-verify facts. I'd pick you up on "lying about it" - I consider the FBI to be heavily politically active, esp in the Trump/Comey times, so describing them as "law enforcement" in these situations is misleading. I added detail to my previous comment, but…

In 2015 Flynn was on RT, a Russian state-controlled international television network, funded by the federal tax budget of the Russian government. He advocated for the US foreign policy actions across the world to work closely with Russia.

He was paid $45,000 for his appearance, but again "forgot" to report that income. What is the US bar for the word "treasonous"?

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Post by ipaddr »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #195
ipaddr wrote: post #180

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They are allies. US, Canada, etc has given loans, sent resources and weapons.

Wouldn't that make Russia an ally too?

Can't remember us sending weapons for free to Russia or having a country level loan

But Russia can be an ally against certain enemies like isis because interests align. Similiar to China.

Ukraine is a democracy ally which puts them on another level and talks about them joining nato also put them on a different level.

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Post by _joel »

Merem wrote: post #535
_joel wrote: post #527

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The press have been reporting the fighting in Donetsk and Luhansk since it started 8 years ago, what are you talking about?

Depends on which country you are from. There wasn't exactly reporting from it (at best only at the beginning) here which is why she moved there. Additionally, now the general tenor is that "Putin" invaded Ukraine basically without any reason even though there were several said by him. He even warned the Ukraine of consequences should they continue with the aggression when Russia formally acknowledged the separatist r…

He pumped money into the seperatists for years, destabalising the region even further than it would have been. There is no excuse for what he's doing.

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Post by anthk »

FollowingTheDao wrote: post #430
neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

"The "official" news in russian federation are all fake and we believe it is better to shut them down!" Now the people are the censors? In the fog of war, how can we judge information if we have no access to the information? Is it fake news that the U.S. said that they would not let N.A.T.O. into Ukraine? As with all technologies, they come with responsibility. Acting as self censors is just as bad as letting the gov…

>"The "official" news in russian federation are all fake and we believe it is better to shut them down!"

No difference with Fox News, Sky News and most TV channels from Spain, them.

They tried to pass a Chinese explosion (causality) as a war bombing from Russians.

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