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> Hate these elitist comments >I have been on and off for a while,I missed when Jersey Shore hit HN. Shoot yourself in the foot much?
I am not being elitist here (I so saw this type of comment coming my way). When did asking when a trend hit a community became derogatory to that trend?
I want to pay for TextMate 2
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Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#172I absolutely agree. TextMate is still my favorite editor. I switched to it from vim in 2007 and have occasionally looked back and around at other editors, but always return to TM. Everyone on my team also uses TextMate all day, every day. We'd be happy to pay for TextMate 2.
As someone who's actually making an analogous opposite switch (learning vim rather than using Sublime), I'd love to hear your reasons for preferring Textmate over vim (I haven't used Textmate myself).
I have been using emacs for over 15 years now. Over the course of that time I've fucked around and built my own elisp libraries here and there, but by and large I'm a pretty generic user.
But I can move around files and edit text like a madman.
Over those 15 years I've used emacs on Solaris, Windows, Mac, Linux and various other Unixes.
Over those 15 years I've used emacs to edit HTML, CSS, C/C++, Perl, PHP, Java, Ruby, Python and god knows what else.
The reason I stick to emacs is that it is a tool I know I will ALWAYS have. No matter what platform, no matter what language, I know I'll be productive in it.
We are craftsmen, pick a tool you know you can hone and use for your entire lifetime and career. A closed source text editor that only runs on one platform is definitely not that tool.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
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I can't believe there are so many cheapskates in here. It's $60! WHO CARES! It's a tool you presumably use every single hour of your programming life . I refuse to accept that you feel personally violated over an idiot promise the author made six years ago. Are people really saying that if the dude came out and said, "Hey guys, it's done but… if I keep my original promise, I literally won't be able to afford the band…
Consider how many hours of productivity where wasted watching TextMate block the UI thread all the time. I've probably wasted hours in the project-wide search alone. The lost time vastly exceeds $60.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#175If this promise was made then IMHO his best option is to adopt the Firefox/Chrome numbering scheme: stabilise and release whatever he has now as TM2.
He should also change the licensing to free updates for 12 months from date of purchase and continue working on TM3.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#176As far as I can tell, there have been almost no feature promises, so the TM developer would be perfectly within his rights to add the 1 or 2 promised features, bump the version to 2, and fulfil his contractual obligations.
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Consider how many hours of productivity where wasted watching TextMate block the UI thread all the time. I've probably wasted hours in the project-wide search alone. The lost time vastly exceeds $60.
Install the Ackmate plugin and banish the beachball forever.
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You're making the same faulty assumption that Marco does: that everyone who bought TextMate is a fellow software developer living in a wealthy nation. Many of the "cheapskates in here" are happy to pay twice, but recognize that it's a privilege to be able to do so.
Bro, c'mon now. I hate using this argument, but if you can afford a macbook you can definitely pony up $60 for your main development tool . Dude's running a business, not a charity. Shit, I use vim. If you're so screwed for cash there are a couple of first class alternatives. EDIT: I use a macbook too. I think it's a great dev platform. It only represents about 5% of my yearly income, though. I doubt I'd be using it…
Around 2 years ago, I bought a used, slightly beat-up, but perfectly functional MacBook for about US$400. I bought it as a backup, but it'd make a perfectly serviceable primary machine, too.
There are currently some closer to $350 on ebay under "buy it now", and you might be able to get lucky and pick one up even cheaper with normal bidding. There are also Intel iMacs up for under $350.
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#179Just for interest's sake can anyone point to this 'promise' of a free upgrade to version 2? I bought TM1 and it played no part on my buying decision because I was not not aware of any such guarantee. If this promise was made then IMHO his best option is to adopt the Firefox/Chrome numbering scheme: stabilise and release whatever he has now as TM2. He should also change the licensing to free updates for 12 months from…
Re: I want to pay for TextMate 2
#180I have a lot of trouble understanding this mentality. I totally get paying when you don't have to in order to support fellow developers. I've got a nice collection of apps on my phone and desktop, all purchased, that I've acquired over the years to support my friends' development efforts. So if Marco wants to help out Macromates, that's fine. More power to him. But I don't understand this mantra of, "We'll forgive yo…
The simplest distillation of what Marco is saying may be: Allan Odgaard built a great product but made a calamitous mistake in pricing it relative to the effort he ended up putting into it. Marco has been auditioning text editors for several months now, and has come to the conclusion that he is happiest with Textmate. Marco would strongly prefer to help Odgaard fix his pricing mistake over the option of having to swi…
If Allan is smart he'll look at the Sophiestication blow up regarding CoverSutra 2.5 being a paid upgrade. I think that would be about the worst thing that could happen to his motivation to work on TextMate. Marco should buy another license if he wants, and I, and many other developers will most likely follow suite of our own free will.
I just can't trust Marco's analysis when it feels like he doesn't seem to give any consideration to the fallout. In the last Build and Analyze he also didn't know Allan's employment situation, and many other things that don't seem to vibe with what I know of the situation as someone who has used TextMate since it was first released. Granted I know he was being a bit flippant at this point, but he brought up how there are holidays before Christmas that could further delay things, but since Thanksgiving is firmly a US holiday and Allan is a Dane living in Denmark, it's fairly safe to say that Nov. 24 and that entire week are just going to be another week for Allan.