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On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Agreed, this is beyond disgusting.

Do you really think Ukraine has a reasonable chance of resisting this invasion? It doesn't look like it to me. So what are you offering other than prolonging the agony?

Would you have thought the Taliban and IS did in e.g. Afghanistan? Twenty years later and the US got tired of trying, pulled out, and they're back in power.

They can't win a guerilla war.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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The flow of money seems to be one major battleground in this war. The biggest sanctions so far are disallowing to exchange funds with some russian banks. And the "nuclear option" is to disallow Russia from using the SWIFT system. What are the chances that this conflict will completely change how trading is done between countries? Could the USA, Europe, South Korea etc simply "nullify" all Russian holdings of their cu…

Kicking them out of SWIFT would hurt but China built an alternative system called CIPS. It’s nowhere near as big but it out there. But if China and Russia both used CIPS more then that would threaten the US dollar’s power as the global reserve currency.

There is going to be nothing to stop China and the USSR from doing this for exactly that reason. At this point the only thing you can do is temporarily inconvenience them, since they’ll get off SWIFT as soon as possible anyway.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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You can use bank transfers and Bitcoin to donate directly, see this page: https://savelife.in.ua/en/donate/ It seems that bitcoin donations are pouring in (over $4 million already). You can watch the bitcoin address here: https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qkd5az2ml7dk5j5...

While they are in fact receiving lots of BTC, one transaction sticks out (80 BTC, 2022-02-25 09:55:18 [3,067,846.41 USD]), I wonder who has that much BTC to give away like that. It is impressive, but raises a lot of questions.

Not really. There are plenty of low-profile high-net-worth miners with that much. I used to hang out in the cex.io chatroom back in 2014 and there were fat cat miners in there who would say "watch this" and then the price would quickly go down by several percentage points because their entire mining pool just sold. It seems quite plausible at least to me that one of these networks might decide to donate a large amount all at once.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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oh apologies if i don't give a fuck about their financial situation WHEN PEOPLE LITERALLY ARE BEING MURDERED BY A FASCIST REGIME. fuck you.

Glad we could have some sane discourse, thanks.

I'm sure you can understand that when people see their country being invaded by a fascist lunatic it isn't the best time to try to do tone policing. Yes people are hyperbolic, emotional, and irrational. They have perfectly good reasons for this. No, nobody cares in the current situation about the feelings of Patreon employees or their financial situation. Blocking Patreon from removing one of the main source of help for Ukrainian people fighting back against the invader is the correct moral choice here. If they do not take actions, yes, of course we can judge them. And of course they have their reasons.

Fuck Patreon and anyone who contributed to Come Back Alive being removed after 8 years with no issue.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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With the risk of getting a dead comment, I can't help but ask one question: Imagine groups in countries getting uninvited visits from NATO or US forces, pick the country of choice from Vietnam to Afghanistan, would have used Patreon for fundraising. Wpuld the perception, after they get kicked of patreon, be "fuck patreon" or "good that patreon isn't financing terrorists"? Ukraine needs all the help they can get. And…

We’re humans. We get to have double standards whenever it is convenient in all other points in life. I think it would be reasonable to apply it here.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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post #14

The flow of money seems to be one major battleground in this war. The biggest sanctions so far are disallowing to exchange funds with some russian banks. And the "nuclear option" is to disallow Russia from using the SWIFT system. What are the chances that this conflict will completely change how trading is done between countries? Could the USA, Europe, South Korea etc simply "nullify" all Russian holdings of their cu…

Kicking them out of SWIFT would hurt but China built an alternative system called CIPS. It’s nowhere near as big but it out there. But if China and Russia both used CIPS more then that would threaten the US dollar’s power as the global reserve currency.

It would also sour China's trade relationships with the rest of the world. The US is China's biggest export market at $452 billion a year, with Russia trailing at just $50B a year. If China decided to ally with Russia - or help them get around the sanction - it would decimate China's economy as well: https://tradingeconomics.com/china/exports-by-country

Russia is an economically weak state; it's not in China's interests to help them.

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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Patreon hosts tons of youtube channels focused only on weapons including purely military ones, how to make guns more effective (aka better at killing), how to tweak ammo to be more destructive. That's one fucked up schizophrenic stance, especially from US company in this specific conflict. Does Trump have any influence there by any chance, given his recent statements?

There is a difference to funding a gun blog or shooting-focused YouTube channel, versus training army personnel and buying guns for them.

When a conventional army starts using that channel's videos for training, does that mean they magically stop receiving funding?

Re: On the removal of Come Back Alive

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> Ukraine is not a tiny nation, and Russia is huge. The US, the most well-funded army in the world for the past generation, hasn't won a war since the end of WW2. Army size and the like does not matter. The Ukranian forces can entrench themselves and maintain a guerilla war for a long time, as long as they have supplies. I strongly feel like wars are unwinnable. It either ends up in a stalemate and attrition - see th…

>The US, the most well-funded army in the world for the past generation, hasn't won a war since the end of WW2. That depends on the definition of winning. In many cases, US military won everything militarily, but lost politically.

I mean, is Iraq even a loss politically?

The US thoroughly rolled the Iraqi military, killed over 1 million Iraqis, overthrew their government, and installed a new government in Iraq that still exists today.

To say this is a "loss" leaves us at a place where the term has no meaning.

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