Vim – Minimal Setup Explained

Post by guilherme-puida » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 11:42 AM UTC

darrenf wrote: post #63

29athrowaway wrote: post #34

Many decades ago, you had to resort to abbreviations so that you could use memory in the most efficient way possible. Computer hardware at that time was more expensive than labor. People having to adapt to how computers worked was the doctrine at that time. But in 2022, this is no longer true. Even the most limited platform you can think of can comfortably run vim. A $5 Raspberry Pi Zero is overkill for vim. And now,…

Quite apart from the fact that many (most?) vim short forms have long form equivalents, and vim has autocomplete - this argument feels misguided to me, mostly because I don't see why it would be limited to just vim. It seems natural, if you hold such a position, to also advocate abandoning CLIs like `ls`, `cd`, `jq`, `aws`, et al? - and I would despise having to put up with stuff like: $ change-directory foo/bar $ am…

Post by johncoltrane » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 12:34 PM UTC

gpvos wrote: post #75

johncoltrane wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

defaults.vim was and still is an abject idea that we sadly can't get rid off, now that it has been there for a few years. The least desirable property of defaults.vim is also present in sensible or in system-wide vimrcs written by package maintainers: you get a black box where things are added/changed/removed without your knowledge or consent. "Your" so-called minimal setup is going to evolve over time, but not accor…

I took a second to see who the "we" is in your last sentence. The site vimways.org is unusable because its certificate has expired. Also, amen. Having used vi since before vim, I actually have a few settings to restore vi features and quirks that I like ( cpoptions+=vxZ!$- ).

Post by swah » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 1:10 PM UTC

PestoDiRucola wrote: post #78

swah wrote: post #76

I prefer VsCode these days - but every now and then a Vim macro is needed - the rare case where multiple cursors won't cut - I just C-p Open in Vim [1]... for fun and saving a few minutes (not always) [1] https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=jonsmith...

Doesn't the VSCode vim plugin support Vim macros as well?

Post by markus_zhang » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 1:26 PM UTC

ninepoints wrote: post #26

markus_zhang wrote: post #6

Question for Vim users: how do you get used to hitting Esc very often? I know some switch Cap with Esc but still clunky.

Aside from the advice mentioned (I bind caps to escape), I find that beginners use escape waaaay more often than is necessary because they aren't using all the commands at their disposal. For example, entering insert mode to delete some characters instead of using d+motion or x. Or entering insert mode to add indentation instead of using the = operator. It would take too long to enumerate all the cases where there is…

Post by johncoltrane » Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 1:46 PM UTC

dsr_ wrote: post #88

sharperguy wrote: post #82

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Every time I use vim on server that doesn't have my .vimrc file that I copy around I inevitably end up googleing "disable mouse in vim"

:set mouse=''