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Post by stickfigure »

mellavora wrote: post #387
stickfigure wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's reasonable to assume that for at least the next few months, you have a strange form of "diplomatic immunity" for attacks in Russia. No jury in the US would convict you, even in the unlikely event someone wanted to prosecute (which would be political suicide here). So, have at it.

In criminal law, incitement is the encouragement of another person to commit a crime. Depending on the jurisdiction, some or all types of incitement may be illegal. Where illegal, it is known as an inchoate offense, where harm is intended but may or may not have actually occurred. -- from wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement

Contact information is in my profile. Come get me.

Here's the more relevant wikipedia link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_realism

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Post by jacquesm »

oblio wrote: post #409
jacquesm wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a real pity because the same amount of money applied effectively instead of looted would have made Bulgaria the Switzerland of the East by now. I've visited your country and love it there - and love the people - but the road to go is a long one.

The thing is, it would actually save them from their population problems. For example in Poland they managed to raise their economy enough that people just stopped leaving. So even the demographic part is self inflicted. Corruption -> poverty -> people leaving the country.

That's true, the brain drain is going to be impossible to stop without giving people a credible future and for that to happen the corruption needs to stop.

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XaYSKkN7EVlx5tv wrote: post #390
neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

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Post by hluska »

lurquer wrote: post #146

This is clearly illegal in the US. Both under the ‘hacking’ laws as well as under laws prohibiting private citizens from interfering in international diplomacy. Really surprised such a thread is permitted on HN.

I’m not American and haven’t been in the United States in several years. Why should a foreign country’s laws impact what I read?

Going even further, a democratically elected leader asked their citizens to help. Once again, why does American law matter?? Does America claim sovereignty over Ukraine now too??

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Post by belter »

Chris2048 wrote: post #410
belter wrote: post #403

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean the Russian agents of disinformation and Russian money, as always, is at work behind enemy lines, in this case in the US. You had US military and ex-military, doing work for Russian's since the 2014 Obama administration. That explains a lot of what has emboldened Russia. "Trump being advised by ex-U.S. Lieutenant General who favors closer Russia ties" https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-advis…

That Op-ed is shocking TBH, is discredits Flynn as an advisor. However I think you still need more to back up the accusation of Flynn, let alone Trump, being a (compromised) Russian asset. There seemed to be a lot of politicking around his prosecution, for example (complicated by the fact that these kind of coercive plea-deal threats are actually common in the US). Also, The headline is partially (but not entirely) m…

You missed the detail that Flynn was pardoned....of talking to the Russian ambassador and lying about it, to US law enforcement.

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Post by verisimi »

trymas wrote: post #388
verisimi wrote: post #370

I'm no expert on this stuff, but I don't get the partisan nature of this Ukraine Russia debate at all. Putting aside the politics of what side the US government is on... It seems very equivalent to me to when some southern states declared secession from the northern states (in 1860), there was a civil war. To Russians, Ukraine is integral to them and their identity, even if that has been the case since 1991 (a situat…

You are incorrect on so many levels - I have no idea where to begin. Ukraine is a sovereign state independent from russia. russia dreams about soviet union comeback. Some countries are out of reach now, e.g. Baltic states which became EU and NATO members. After russians being assholes to their neighbours for decades (if not centuries) - some neighbours decided that it's time to leave abusive relationship. To russia U…

Hmm.. I think you're stuck in the idea that there are good and bad actors, that this stuff isn't propaganda, that it's not just about power, all of it bad... I'm sure if you're in Russia the exact opposite arguments are being made, and make sense to their citizens.

My point really is that - to an outsider with no dog in the race - if you take a long view, it seems equivalent to the US civil war. What you just said, couldn't you equate Russia/Ukraine to US/southern states?

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Post by gianpaj »

awb wrote: post #4

Anonymous is supposedly joining the cyber war: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1496954233492541444 https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1496965766435926039 They are claiming responsibility for taking down RT.com and some other Russian sites.

RT's app is down at the moment. I'm in Spain

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Post by Chris2048 »

belter wrote: post #415
Chris2048 wrote: post #410

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Op-ed is shocking TBH, is discredits Flynn as an advisor. However I think you still need more to back up the accusation of Flynn, let alone Trump, being a (compromised) Russian asset. There seemed to be a lot of politicking around his prosecution, for example (complicated by the fact that these kind of coercive plea-deal threats are actually common in the US). Also, The headline is partially (but not entirely) m…

You missed the detail that Flynn was pardoned....of talking to the Russian ambassador and lying about it, to US law enforcement.

I didn't.

Also, could you respond in full e.g. "Flynn was pardoned by Trump, meaning that..." so I don't have to guess what you mean.

EDIT: ok it was done, thanks. Although I'd add he was caught not disclosing talking to an ambassador (he is afaik allowed to do so), and then accused of lying about it to the FBI.

Per my post, there was a lot of politicking in that incitement that by itself would have justified the pardon.

TBH, I just don't know - which is what I mean by "politicking"; The more I read the more I feel I'm either missing something, or fed mis-information or a skewed perspective.

There was a whole thing about altered or manipulated notes during the Flynn incitement - yet Wikipedia page for Flynn barely mentions it, or McCabe, and McCabe's page mention his firing (which he says was based on an attempt to discredit him) but barely mentions Flynn..

Was that important? Was the DOJ justified in dropping charges, or was Barr corrupt? Was the Pardon justified given the FBIs shady tactics (although shady tactics might be their modus-operandi..), or not? Or maybe the pardon was more motivated by Flynn being "inner-circle" than anything FBI or Russia based. I just don't know.

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Post by jl6 »

neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

Really, how much defensive value does this have for Ukraine?

DDOSing Russian news websites just allows them to cry victim - “look, they don’t want you to hear the truth!”.

Disrupting the Russian internet in general also harms any anti-war protesters trying to organize.

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Post by mickael-kerjean »

neonsunset wrote: post #367

1: Small website with simple JS to ddos a list of russian gov and propaganda websites. Works anywhere where those are not blocked (e.g. Ukraine). Link - https://stop-russian-desinformation.near.page/ 2. Console tool for unplanned load testing Link - https://github.com/codesenberg/bombardier/releases/tag/v1.2.... Example usage - ./bombardier-linux-amd64 --duration=240h --connections=1000 --latencies https://lenta.ru U…

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