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Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by MaxGabriel » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 3:08 AM UTC

smackfu wrote: post #87

DrJokepu wrote: post #80

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If you change the region format from whatever you have to United States, it will however display 73 degrees F and sunny. I don't want to sound like a fanboy but this is some serious attention to detail.

Funny how we consider that using the right units is laudable even if it is showing junk data.

It's not so much 'junk data' because it isn't perceived as data in the first place. It is still a good design decision because someone used to Fahrenheit wouldn't like seeing it was freezing outside, nor someone used to Celsius that it was boiling.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by stevenp » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 3:18 AM UTC

cryptoz wrote: post #8

So many puns. "Let's talk iPhone" -> "Let's talk, iPhone" (new speech functionality). It's a phone, you talk to people, you also talk to it, etc. I would expect this to be a very speech technology-heavy event.

I've never personally been able to get any use out of the voice control feature of iOS. In fact, after trying it a few times, the only time I invoke it now is by accident. I hope that Apple kicks some major ass on this feature and creates another "how did I ever live without this" moment.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by Wazzup12 » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 3:18 AM UTC

Wazzup12 wrote: post #20

What could the badge on the phone icon indicate? That's the biggest puzzle...

Okay, my take is that it means 1 common iPhone for CDMA and GSM

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by guywithabike » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 3:36 AM UTC

gto16108 wrote: post #88

I really can't wait to see how Tim Cook brings the new iPhone to the market. There's a lot of pressure on him to perform in the same way that Steve Jobs has in the past. He has, to his advantage, been more chatty with Apple employees via corporate webmail so I'm excited to see what he says and how he brings his team around a much awaited iOS 5 and iPhone.

No need to wait. Tim Cook has already hosted some events, like the Back to the Mac event.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxWSIDoE8Hk

(I can't find better videos at the moment, but they're around.)

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by skeletonjelly » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 3:51 AM UTC

ceejayoz wrote: post #52

thematt wrote: post #11

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I don't expect it to be announced here, but a full touchscreen would be nice... one without a physical button.

The physical button is pretty important for force-exiting a frozen app. I can't imagine it going touchscreen.

I can't imagine there being a difference between a physical button and a capacitive one when it comes to interrupting the kernel to say "hey exit this process". It's all in the design in how the kernel handles interrupts.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by hrabago » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 5:20 AM UTC

stevenp wrote: post #112

cryptoz wrote: post #8

So many puns. "Let's talk iPhone" -> "Let's talk, iPhone" (new speech functionality). It's a phone, you talk to people, you also talk to it, etc. I would expect this to be a very speech technology-heavy event.

I've never personally been able to get any use out of the voice control feature of iOS. In fact, after trying it a few times, the only time I invoke it now is by accident. I hope that Apple kicks some major ass on this feature and creates another "how did I ever live without this" moment.

I use it while driving to call people without having to dial with my fingers. Unfortunately once the call is placed I still have to use my fingers to set it to speakerphone.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by n3m6 » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 5:21 AM UTC

philwelch wrote: post #104

I don't know why everyone's assuming Tim Cook will actually deliver the keynote when execs like Schiller and Forstall have been doing the keynotes with Steve and Tim Cook never has.

I can't remember the exact keynote but think I've seen Tim Cook on stage before.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by Someone » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 6:20 AM UTC

protomyth wrote: post #99

Someone wrote: post #98

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I agree, but I do not see how one would fit them on an iPhone, and leave room (for both left- and right-handed users) to hold the thing.

Just put them right next to each other in a 2 x 2. The amount of room is pretty small. They should also improve the camera API to allow full use like the FCam API. ref: http://graphics.stanford.edu/papers/fcam/

Nice. I was thinking of 3D stuff, though. That could be sort-of done in software (let user move the camera, estimate motion from images & sensors, compensate images for motion artifacts), but having two or four cameras at corners of the device would be easier, allow for photographing moving objects, etc. (pan iPhone is about as tall as human eye-eye distance, so this should enable non-macro 3D stuff.

I do not think we will stuff like that before we have 3D screens on our iPhones, though.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by kitsune_ » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 6:29 AM UTC

raganwald wrote: post #40

untog wrote: post #31

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Then they might justifiably reply "So, you don't care about the product at all, and just care about the way the company presents itself?"

It’s a reasonable question, however consider the following: If someone is late for a job interview and unkempt, do you question whether they will be on time for work and will have meticulous software development hygiene (by whatever standards you employ, e.g. tests, proper use of source control)? It’s true that some unkempt people are very careful about their work, and some people who are late for an interview are on…

The fact that people give more trust to a well dressed person has been in the playbooks of con men since, well, the dawn of civilization?

Make of that what you will... But appearances are often deceiving and it is, in my opinion, reckless to not remind yourself of that from time to time.

Re: Apple Announces Event on October 4th: Let's Talk iPhone

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Post by nickheer » Wed, Sep 28, 2011, 6:31 AM UTC

stevenp wrote: post #112

cryptoz wrote: post #8

So many puns. "Let's talk iPhone" -> "Let's talk, iPhone" (new speech functionality). It's a phone, you talk to people, you also talk to it, etc. I would expect this to be a very speech technology-heavy event.

I've never personally been able to get any use out of the voice control feature of iOS. In fact, after trying it a few times, the only time I invoke it now is by accident. I hope that Apple kicks some major ass on this feature and creates another "how did I ever live without this" moment.

When I can ask my smartphone "what time is the next bus arriving?" without having to touch it, that's when it's a really smart phone. I hope it's that level of a kick.