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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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You seem like a knowledgeable person. What does Ukraine really have, that Putin so desperately wants? And best of luck to you, dear friends.

"What does Ukraine really have, that Putin so desperately wants? " It's not 'what it has' it's 'what it is'. Putin views the Ukraine as 'part of Russia' - that's it. I don't understand why people have such a hard time with this. Imagine if Mexico invaded Texas in 1950 and 'won'. A lot of Americans would want to 'take it back'. Now I don't believe that this analogy is real in terms of the Ukraine situation (Imagine if…

> Imagine if Mexico invaded Texas in 1950 and 'won'. A lot of Americans would want to 'take it back'.

Ironically it happened the other way round.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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post #265

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Perhaps he doesn't want to find a new place to live, in contrast to Assange and Moreno.

Does he even have a valid passport? Doesn't seem like he even has the option.

He could get a Nansen passport. But i don't see which country would take him, so it's torture/jail in the US or silence.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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I wonder if Reuters is trying to create a cyber war much like the BBC has been blasted by some in the UK for sparking Xmas panic buying and the fuel crisis. https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1506903/BBC-blast... https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1497043/BBC-backl...

So let me get this straight, on 27th September it’s the BbC causing panic, despite every petrol forecourt in the country having the print press on display showing these headlines https://www.expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2021/09/27/what-... And the government promising the send the army in?

The BBC broke the news first. Today's media are quite rapid and who knows what's been discussed down the pub the night before.

When looking at the 30-40min delays in filling in which was largely concentrated in cities, how many people sat queueing for fuel were considering an electric car? And then those filling up were limited to £20 or £30 of fuel so they experienced the same range anxiety as someone with an electric car.

Sometimes its not the message that is important, its the resulting changes that are more important. So the fuel crisis created an uptick in electric vehicle sales.

Its not just Govt discounts for new tech like solar cells that cause a change in behaviour, other entities can also take advantage of situations, or just be manipulated into reporting it.

Take the chip shortage and the Ukraine crisis when thinking of Ukraine being the largest Neon producer and its relevance to the chip supply chain. Neon production is a global supply change risk at the moment so events are making changes occur. Bosch is now fabricating their own chips albeit 300mm https://techcrunch.com/2021/06/07/bosch-opens-1-2-billion-ch... and Intel have also announced a new chip fab in Germany. https://siliconangle.com/2021/12/23/report-intel-build-new-c...

So Russia going into secure Ukraine and thus Neon means the EU & US get a stick poked into their bike wheel!

Nothing is ever what it seems!

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Reminder to people who didn't grow up in the US: Americans are by and large a bloodthirsty, vindictive lot and pay an astounding amount of attention to who their friends are. This is sometimes a force for evil, sometimes a force for good, but it is what it is. Sure, don't take legal advice from me. Use a VPN.

> Reminder to people who didn't grow up in the US: Americans are by and large a bloodthirsty, vindictive lot I'd take away "by and large" here. Many of them are also exceedingly generous, open and friendly and cares deeply. This holds true for both sides of the political spectrum. They've also suffered a lot to end two world wars that they didn't start.

> They've also suffered a lot to end two world wars that they didn't start.

This is even more true of the Russians, and as an outsider, I'm wondering how much of their politics is informed by those memories.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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No, they are our ally. We stand with Ukraine because we stand against tyranny.

These jingoistic platitudes are getting so heavy-handed that I legitimately can't tell if this is satire.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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RT.com is still up and running. A DDoS attack is hardly a ‘complex’ attack against Russia and is easily mitigated against these days vs a malware wiper already spreading all over Ukraine. A DDoS is not even remotely considered a ‘hack’. Anonymous is not exactly sophisticated like the ‘Equation Group’ and these sort of DDoS + shodan.io lookups are what script-kiddie jokers do. They have nothing to fight with compared…

rt.com seems down from my perspective DDoSes are simple tools, but they can be extremely effective at stopping Russian propaganda mills.

It appears just to be a leaseweb server.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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I wish there would be more people could do than "protest".

Inside Russia the Kremlin eliminated most voices of opposition journalists. Those in power now are only hard-line Putin cronies. The NGO's have been expelled, the media silenced or murdered, and anyone who could be a strong contender to take Putin's place is in jail.

They have sent murderers to Europe to carry out assassinations, downed a civilian aircraft, infiltrated our political systems by funding racists and fringe-group fuck-mongers, and continue to laugh at us for being weak simply because we prefer diplomacy over violence.

If you're living in Russia and the only thing you're prepared to do is protest then have at it if it eases your mind. But if you have some skills you could do a lot more if you really wanted to help:

- leak financial records,

- if you have access to ICS take them down

It would help see bank details, company formation documents, info on shell companies, or transactions between RU based shells and Cypriot, Maltese, London banks.

You could help highlighting old stories that haven't aged well - that show how Europe is still complicit by not having acted over the past decades other than with "a frown, a concern, or a stern warning" here some stories but there are actually dozens of high traffic headlines for every country:

- Arron Banks & Nigel Farrage using Russian money to finance Brexit,

- Austrian politician Kneissel inviting Putin to dance at her wedding,

- Gerhard Schröder and many in German politics parachuting into board seats of Russian businesses.

- Marine Le Pen accepting Russian money to fund her racist party

- Russian stooges inside the GOP, ...

We need to throw shit at those responsible in our own countries to make it clear what happens if you defend dirty Russian money under the pretense of diplomacy.

asap and reject Russian, ban all Russian state media from Tech platforms, etc. I'm afraid that any form of help which goes beyond mere lip service will never be accepted by Europeans (or US) because it means accept some risk/suffering ourselves. And Putin has many people in EU / US / UK government who own him a favor.

Also don't remove Russian banks from SWIFT because this hits mostly the lower income groups and not those strutting around EU capitals with their Chanel bags and designer clothes who anyway have their assets tied up in EU real estate.

To fix this we have to set the offshore financial system on fire and have more transparency over who the beneficiaries are in inbound/outbound financial transactions.

Also if you have the stomach and skills then hunt down people close to the Russian state pretending to have a civilian life in Europe. This includes RU embassy employees, employees of RU state media who been poisoning our own culture with propaganda for years.

Nobody who works for a country that fires missiles at Europe shall ever feel safe in a European country. The West (and especially Europe) must speak a language that they understand. Time for diplomacy is over when war goes kinetic.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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This thread is mostly full of jokes, and that's cool. But more seriously I'm exactly the kind of person I suppose this is meant to appeal to. I've spent the last 2-3 decades breaking into systems. Many of these systems comprise what the US calls "critical infrastructure". That's pipelines, power generation, transmission, distribution. Air traffic control systems. Government agencies. I'm based in the US. The problem…

If you don't want to engage on the offensive side, there is plenty of work on the defensive side of things. * Detect and notify the Ukrainian government about threats or upcoming attacks. * Identify coordinated manipulative behaviour on social media. * Last but not least contact Patreon's management to release the funds that have been donated to Ukrainian veterans ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30461038 ) Fee…

>Identify coordinated manipulative behaviour on social media.

You mean the Russian propaganda, or the West's propaganda?

Seriously, two years after "two weeks to flatten the curve" everyone is at it _again_ and it's embarrasing.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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post #82

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And even then it’s mostly a bunch of kids larping

That's all it ever was

4chan is so big these days, a mere board like /pol/ will have 30 million unique IP visits per month, that is (perhaps unfortunately) more than just kids these days. It's the main free speech board of the internet, it draws people from all over the world.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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The phrase "the free world" rubs me the wrong way. I'm obviously against what Russia is doing, any sane man would be. But as a middle eastern, the US to us has been 10x worse than Russia: They killed a million Iraqis, they killed Syrian civilians by bombing hospitals and schools. They overthrew a functional government in Libya, and they supported Syrian/Iraqi separatists (Kurds). They forcefully tried to build a mili…

> They overthrew a functional government in Libya That's not really an argument in itself tho.

And yet the USA would be all pissy if some other country overthrew their government.
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