I’d like to get involved but have cursory ‘hacking’ knowledge. I’m handy with a terminal and can program. Would I be of use?
I suppose the easiest one would be to DDoS any website/service with ties to the Putin and band.
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Based in the US, which law prevents you from committing cyber attacks in Russia? Genuinely curious how you would be prosecuted and how this would cause you to risk your entire career.
There's a seemingly endless collection of crimes you could be charged with if you're hacking a foreign country from inside the US. From wire fraud to conspiracy and everything in-between. A federal charge of conspiracy carries a mandatory minimum of 5 years in jail.
even if you were to get a US attorney to prosecute you by turning yourself in, they'll highly likely give you probation even with "mandatory minimums"
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You seem like a knowledgeable person. What does Ukraine really have, that Putin so desperately wants? And best of luck to you, dear friends.
I wouldn’t use the word desperate. This campaign seems to have been planned out over a decade or more and carefully timed if you ask me. Observe how the new German leadership can’t bring itself to block SWIFT access in winter after recently turning off nuclear power capacity, because it will cause an energy crisis. That isn’t a coincidence. Neither I think is that all this happened while it is Russia’s turn chairing…
> and his agenda really does involve damaging and weakening other sovereign nations seemingly for the sake of it.
The only game he knows and when he sees a winning move he can get away with he can't not take it.
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#274This thread is mostly full of jokes, and that's cool. But more seriously I'm exactly the kind of person I suppose this is meant to appeal to. I've spent the last 2-3 decades breaking into systems. Many of these systems comprise what the US calls "critical infrastructure". That's pipelines, power generation, transmission, distribution. Air traffic control systems. Government agencies. I'm based in the US. The problem…
Based in the US, which law prevents you from committing cyber attacks in Russia? Genuinely curious how you would be prosecuted and how this would cause you to risk your entire career.
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you don't want to engage on the offensive side, there is plenty of work on the defensive side of things. * Detect and notify the Ukrainian government about threats or upcoming attacks. * Identify coordinated manipulative behaviour on social media. * Last but not least contact Patreon's management to release the funds that have been donated to Ukrainian veterans ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30461038 ) Fee…
Ukraine VPNs are probably still up - in which case, another way you could serve is by doing analysis and writing documentation on Russia's cyberattack methods, where they come from, patterns in their design, but most importantly, how they may best be prevented or reduced in their effectiveness. Documenting the behavior and collecting intelligence is a difficult skill and intensely valuable even if it is not direct re…
I have a limited understanding of large scale networking. Can you explain how using a vpn to an endpoint in the Ukraine allows someone to observe behaviour?
I imagine if you are on an isp or IX backbone you could observe flows of packets. But how do you do that from a vpn?
Or should they break in to target systems first, shore up the defences, and then document who else tries to break in?
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#276Just like nobody would even talk about Nord Stream 1, or EU didn't want to cancel Swift, and EU leader is literally talking about a 'pretty lit up building' in 'support of Ukraine' - while Ukraine is begging for weapons ... I'm wary that this is a little too late. If you want to help, call your Senator and demand that they supply Ukraine with as many Javelins and Stingers as they can, unlimited small arms, equipment…
You need to evaluate the situation. Supplying weapons might feel good as a sign of defiance, but it will only prolong the conflict and lead to more dead. Nobody wins if you die a martyr in this conflict. The political capital is on the Ukrainians side, so any situation aside from a direct war is preferable. There are direct conflicts, but they are also involved in a proxy war.
And no, I would not enjoy suggesting surrender to any Ukrainian either and I understand that people want to fight. But a better future can only be build with acknowledging the present and taking options from there.
Of course there could be opportunities if Ukrainians hold out as long as they can, but either case of getting outside help or being able to repel the invaders currently seems almost impossible. You can make the war more expensive for the Russian, I guess, but that would cost more lives and might result in the same end.
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#277Sure, they will know it's starting to be serious, when they will see defaced wordpress all over pop-and-mom russian businesses
I realize you are probably joking (which is rather insensitive in a situation where actual people are dying).
But yes. It would help. It would hurt those that are a victim of the war already most, though. The Russian economy is hurt bad. This will reach moms&pops soon, if not already.
Leading to unrest, potential bankrun, local protests and even deserting of troops.
If you believe putting up Russian people against Russian authorities helps, then taking the livelihood or extra income of thousands of these people, will be adding to unrest.
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The most important part in what you wrote: > no sane person wants to shoot their peaceful neighbors and relatives and this is the case for all Russians even most of the ones in the army in Ukraine, right now. People do not want war. Period. For a human being to go to war, he/she needs to be heavily indoctrinated to the point of partially losing is normal references. Even today, with heavily indoctrinated armies, only…
Luckily this also favours the defending side somewhat I hope: From listening to people who grew up with the veterans here in Norway I've learned that: - Germans were told they came here to protect us against the British so they would - in the beginning of the war - shoot to suppress, not to kill. I guess Russian soldiers coming into Ukraine has been tricked to believe the "peace keeping" nonsense too and had a rude a…
>German soldiers would cryingly admit to POWs already at the start of the war that they were absolutely not voluntarily there, they'd just be shot if they refused
No shit they weren't there voluntarily, no sane people want to go to their death, but those were the rules for mandatory conscription for them back then.
Even today some European countries still have mandatory conscription, and while they won't shoot you for refusal, if you don't show up for conscription, military police will come to your house and arrest you, and if you run away, an arrest warrant will be issues on your name.
So yeah, you have to do your mandatory service, even if you don't want to.
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This is crap. 9 Eastern European countries in the former Soviet sphere joined NATO and the EU and are currently going through one of their longest periods of growth and peace in their history. There can be no long term prosperity with Russia.
They are being bled dry of everything the’ve got for the Western European elite. The benefits go to the upper classes while the working people suffer.
That's true. I know because I am from Bulgaria. We're vassals one way or another. Bled dry is correct. The entire eastern block was sold out for peanuts during the 90s. I guess that was the price for joining NATO and the EU
However, being US/EU vassals is better for us. I personally think that's mainly because the so called west has all the money in the world. That's the root cause. Not culture, values, etc. Those are all secondary to having money for so long.
While I understand the stated reasons for the invasion, and they are much more valid then America's struggle to steal as much resources as possible from all over the world under the guise of "democracy" and "WMDs", I fear we'll be next. I don't want to be under their boots. My family has suffered enough under the Soviets
It fucking sucks to be on the outskirts