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Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

joeman1000 wrote: post #12

I’d like to get involved but have cursory ‘hacking’ knowledge. I’m handy with a terminal and can program. Would I be of use?

If SWIY wants to turn the cursory into well-versed…ery.

Anonymously set up a Bitcoin VPS in a country that won’t care about a little heat, only connect to it using SSH over Tor, preferably from a public wifi. I think this the BEHIND SEVEN PROXIES of 2022, but still not watertight based on a traffic correlation attack from one of the many glowing Tor nodes.

Or just practice in your home lab, like me. If you have a computer and internet, it’s free.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

simne wrote: post #25

I'm Ukrainian activist for 10+ years, have been on Maidan, etc, know many other activists. Unfortunately, we have not seen understanding with any government. Looks like, all people who got to government or state organizations, work on classical totalitarian scheme - "for friends all the best, for all others - severity of the law". Mean, system is so much disbalanced, that any government got totalitarian power and doe…

> If you really want to help Ukraine, better to contact volunteers-entrepreneurs, who where on Maidan, and who struggle for economic freedoms, and support Ukrainian army as private persons, without government/state.

> You could just donate, or you could create some business opportunity, so Ukrainians will make business, export working hours, or export some products to world.

This makes sense, but I wonder if this would help in the short time. Maybe investing would help over the years; if Russia invades, investments may not help avoid the consequences?

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by redisman »

xwdv wrote: post #27
pcwalton wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to ask, lone wolf behavior is more likely to end up with you in jail than to do anything that helps Ukraine. If you are serious and are a citizen of a signatory to NATO, consider enlisting with your country's cyber force.

Only if you’re an amateur. I got shell access into some public utilities that had old versions of Windows in Russia that I’m looking at right now. Maybe I can turn off some power grids.

Go for it

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by Uhhrrr »

elorant wrote: post #16
joeman1000 wrote: post #12

I’d like to get involved but have cursory ‘hacking’ knowledge. I’m handy with a terminal and can program. Would I be of use?

Unless you're accustomed with hardening or breaking into systems you won't be of any help. You could certainly volunteer though if you wish.

It seems like a fine place to practice.

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by TameAntelope »

Am I the only one who thinks this is well intentioned but kind of silly?

I don’t know a lot about this space, but I don’t know especially how many skills translate from offense to defense.

Is this basically just a call for folks to turn in their 0days and access or something? Seems wt least marginally more useful than trying to train up a bunch of script kiddies to fight GRU…

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by pcwalton »

koolba wrote: post #21
pcwalton wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to ask, lone wolf behavior is more likely to end up with you in jail than to do anything that helps Ukraine. If you are serious and are a citizen of a signatory to NATO, consider enlisting with your country's cyber force.

What does being a NATO signatory have to do with anything? Ukraine is not a part of NATO and I’m not aware of NATO authorizing any direct military or digital action against Russia.

NATO has not authorized direct action, but seeing as how NATO states border Russia and Ukraine, and given the alliance's founding principle of deterrence of the historical USSR, it has an obvious concern. And NATO signatories have more than likely engaged in cyber-offensives against Russia already (e.g. [1]).

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command#Op...

Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia

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Post by rrss »

xwdv wrote: post #27
pcwalton wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have to ask, lone wolf behavior is more likely to end up with you in jail than to do anything that helps Ukraine. If you are serious and are a citizen of a signatory to NATO, consider enlisting with your country's cyber force.

Only if you’re an amateur. I got shell access into some public utilities that had old versions of Windows in Russia that I’m looking at right now. Maybe I can turn off some power grids.

> If you have to ask

> Only if you’re an amateur

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