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Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by datagram »

coryfklein wrote: post #299
datagram wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can easily get all of these features in the official YouTube app by subscribing to YouTube Premium, which also provides revenue to content creators.

But why, when YouTube has chosen to provide the content ad-free? If I see content I appreciate and then – for whatever reason – decide I'd like to support the creator, I'll probably just donate to their Patreon where they'll actually see most of the money I send their way. If I pay for YouTube Premium and then I watch a video that wastes my time, I definitely do not want to send money to that creator but Premium will…

> But why, when YouTube has chosen to provide the content ad-free?

Why pay for games when you can pirate them? Why pay for the New York Times when you can read all their articles on archive.is? Are you saying you would prefer if YouTube locked everything down with DRM?

And I don't really buy the "I'll just support their Patreon" argument that a lot of people are using in this thread. Ignoring the obvious issue that you're depending on people to go out of their way to give the creator money, unless there's some kind of micropayment solution most creators just go from making some amount of money to making no money. A bigger cut of $0 is still $0.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by lelandbatey »

FabHK wrote: post #287
lelandbatey wrote: post #102

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> "They're still entitled to consume content for free." YouTube et al. are free. That's the whole point! The only reason anyone uses them is because they are free, as in free beer. If I crack open an incognito tab and go to YouTube, they serve me a page of videos, I click on one, and it starts playing. I didn't agree to anything, I never said "oh, but I agree I'll watch the ads/let the ads play/download the ads" in o…

> If I crack open an incognito tab and go to YouTube, they serve me a page of videos, I click on one, and it starts playing. I didn't agree to anything I am served this when going to YouTube, which I have to agree to: "Before you continue to YouTube Google uses cookies and data to: Deliver and maintain services, like tracking outages and protecting against spam, fraud and abuse Measure audience engagement and site st…

Interesting, I do not face any such kind of notification upon visiting YouTube incognito. Additionally, this sort of agreement is what I meant about "murmurs about ToS/EULA" that get brought up. Nowhere in that disclosure is there anything like "hey there, you are expected to: download this data/let us display certain content/look with your eyes at certain content in order for us to give you this content". Instead, it's a disclosure about what they're HOPING to get from you while you are there (data). Maybe they try to slip it into the ToS linked down there at the bottom, but that's not required and does not form a contract with the audience at all.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by WickyNilliams »

louky wrote: post #350
WickyNilliams wrote: post #331

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Resuming issues were bug in the last few versions, but has been fixed in the latest release.

Still broken for me, and I've used the thing for years - very familiar with the quirks.

Also a long time user, but the issues described were only the last few months for me. Perhaps there are device specific bugs. I just rolled back to an earlier version until they were remedied

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by coryfklein »

datagram wrote: post #351
coryfklein wrote: post #299

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why, when YouTube has chosen to provide the content ad-free? If I see content I appreciate and then – for whatever reason – decide I'd like to support the creator, I'll probably just donate to their Patreon where they'll actually see most of the money I send their way. If I pay for YouTube Premium and then I watch a video that wastes my time, I definitely do not want to send money to that creator but Premium will…

> But why, when YouTube has chosen to provide the content ad-free? Why pay for games when you can pirate them? Why pay for the New York Times when you can read all their articles on archive.is? Are you saying you would prefer if YouTube locked everything down with DRM? And I don't really buy the "I'll just support their Patreon" argument that a lot of people are using in this thread. Ignoring the obvious issue that y…

Viewing videos hosted directly on YouTube servers where they share them openly and without restriction is hardly analogous to pirating video games.

But even so, YouTube videos are categorically different from video games in that merely by watching them once you consume their value. For video games one presumably may read reviews, play at a friend's house, etc before deciding to spend money on them.

Your Patreon counter-argument presupposes a conclusion though; that the creators deserve anything in the first place. For content I'm not willing to pay for, and which is offered to me for free, creators do not by default deserve any greater than $0!

It is up to them to convince folks to pay them for their content, and if they choose to host their content on YouTube they have made their own decision. Not all creators probably know that YouTube will offer their content for free without any advertisement-supported content, but that's their problem. There are video hosting options which do indeed require folks to pay for access, but YouTube is not that.

And as a side note, I'm a living counter-example to your $0 example, as I have myself donated to creators that published free content on YouTube in hopes that they will continue to produce it.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by bubu-bln »

arsome wrote: post #10

With the integration of SponsorBlock and ReturnYoutubeDislike Vanced is truly better than ever.

There is a version of NewPipe both integrates SponsorBlock and can optionally does dislike count, as well. Works great, it's FOSS and 100% nag-free: https://f-droid.org/packages/org.polymorphicshade.newpipe

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by nomel »

tshaddox wrote: post #241
nomel wrote: post #163

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My assumption is that it's less of a monetary loss for them to serve the ads unbundled compared to putting the engineering resources behind bundling them. They, obviously, have the exact numbers readily available, and I assume the "money lost" lines will cross eventually. Regardless, there is a loss, and they'll respond to it when it becomes significant enough. edit: uBlock Origin has over 10,000,000 users, according…

> My assumption is that it's less of a monetary loss for them to serve the ads unbundled compared to putting the engineering resources behind bundling them. Yes, just like it's less of a monetary loss for you to install an ad blocker than subscribe to YouTube Premium!

The difference is that an ad blocker results in a one way transfer of value, without compensation.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by ranguna »

ranguna wrote: post #329
xwx wrote: post #8

Vanced is pretty good. It seems like it's just the official YouTube app but with premium for free. Newpipe is another ad-free YouTube app. https://newpipe.net/ It's FOSS and doesn't use your Google account, or any of the YouTube APIs. You can still manage subscriptions but you have to import them manually.

Not only that, but also sponsorblock, awesome feature that skips sponsors mid video (it can also skip other things like intros and stuff)

Correction: venced supports sponsorblock

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by MisterSandman »

elcomet wrote: post #348
MisterSandman wrote: post #338

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No... per user, YouTube Premium pays out way more than ads do. Overall, yes, of course, ad revenue is a higher contributor, since very few people use YouTube Premium.

Are you talking about YouTube ads or sponsorings ? I'm talking about sponsors that are mentioned in the video by the creator.

I was talking about YouTube ads. You are correct, yes, sponsorships tend to pay more than either YouTube ads or YouTube premium.

Re: Vanced: YouTube adblocker for Android

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Post by luke2m »

bdlowery wrote: post #254
oschvr wrote: post #180

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> paying for things is not hard Except when you don't have a money allocation for a premium service

The vast majority of people browsing hacker news are in the tech industry, not high school kids with no money.

I unfortunately am actually a high school kid with no money.
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