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Sadly they will have stay away from open windows now.
Nice defenestration reference. Slow clap.
Nothing gets passed you, huh?
As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
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Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#72Companies should not involve in politics
Almost everything interesting involving multiple humans can be described as politics.
In which case the word doesn’t mean anything.
Regardless of whether you agree, you know what the OP meant, because “politics” has a meaning, and it’s not “everything”.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#73Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
I like to think I would be brave enough to say something in that situation. But you never know until the chips are down.
Kudos to the Jetbrains folks.
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Kind of off topic, but Russia hasn't comitted a war crime. They've committed an act of war. Not really the same thing.
They have bombarded civilian targets - there are multiple pictures and videos of civilian buildings and infrastructure such as roads being bombed, with civilians dying. That's very war crimey. Furthermore, crimes against peace are a type of war crime.
Well I guess we need to send every US President since Eisenhower to the Hague in chains, then.
Don't act like Russia is some sort of unique evil, here. The gallons of blood spilled in collateral damage to innocent civilians by US, US-led, or US-financed operations in countries we have absolutely no business being in can fill swimming pools.
Literally anybody writing, posting, tweeting, or writing column-inches about the horrible action by Russia from US soil needs to stop, notice where they are, and recognize that OUR government is orders of magnitude worse, and has been at it for far, far longer.
I will fault the Russians for one thing, here. The FSB should have fabricated evidence of WMDs held in Kiev, claimed that Zelensky was murdering babies, then went in under the banner of Freedom(tm).
This silly business of conducting military options unapologetically for national interests is so old-fashioned. Lying to the world through your media mouthpieces is the way to do it. You'd think there'd still be some of that Pravda spirit left over from the USSR, but I guess not.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#75Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
yes, people of HN need to realize what it takes for a Russian company to voice narratives not in line with the government (in this case supporting their war enemy) for JetBrains this could mean losing contracts with other (pro-government) Russian companies, house searches for their own employees and executives and targeted “investigation” campaigns they could be declared a “foreign agent” or “undesirable organization…
and if you’re still in doubt: one tweet is all it takes to build a case
they prosecute people for liking content on VK or blowing up houses in Minecraft
https://theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/10/russian-teenager-n...
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#76Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Their head office is in Prague, Czech Republic and they're technically a Czech company... But point still stands, they're Russian and speaking against the war.
Not to detract from the importance of their statement today, but I’ve always thought that they were really a “Czech company” on paper only.
Take a look at their supposed Czech HQ office:
https://www.jetbrains.com/company/contacts/prague/
And then compare to their St Petersburg, Russia office:
https://www.jetbrains.com/company/contacts/st-petersburg/
Which one looks more like a HQ? The latter office is their largest [0] and also just happens to be where their CEO is based [1].
It’s always felt to me like their de facto HQ is in Russia.
I’m not trying to insinuate anything, I like their products and I’m pleased to see their statement today, but the “we’re a Czech company” thing has always felt a bit odd to me.
If anything though, it makes the stand they’re taking today even more significant.
[0] https://officesnapshots.com/2020/01/16/jetbrains-offices-sai...
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#77Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. > To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business de…
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Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#78Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Their head office is in Prague, Czech Republic and they're technically a Czech company... But point still stands, they're Russian and speaking against the war.
Lots of Russian companies are nominally headquartered in Prague. Reveal Sound is another example off the top of my head. There are certain advantages for companies that want to do business internationally.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Their head office is in Prague, Czech Republic and they're technically a Czech company... But point still stands, they're Russian and speaking against the war.
Not to detract from the importance of their statement today, but I’ve always thought that they were really a “Czech company” on paper only. Take a look at their supposed Czech HQ office: https://www.jetbrains.com/company/contacts/prague/ And then compare to their St Petersburg, Russia office: https://www.jetbrains.com/company/contacts/st-petersburg/ Which one looks more like a HQ? The latter office is their largest […
Yes, they're mostly Russian. But legal status matters in that Russia can't shut them down...