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As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
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Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#62Companies should not involve in politics
Yes, and perhaps later they can claim to just be following orders.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. > To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business de…
> business decision the tweet isn’t about business, it’s to support families of JetBrains employees
how could this impact JetBrains employees in Russia? I imagine I'd be worried if I were them
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#64Companies should not involve in politics
Then ban lobbying.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
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#66Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
It's going to be increasingly difficult to do business there over the coming few years. I can't see this situation becoming easier any time soon. What steps can founders in Russia seek to reduce the risks that they're facing?
> What steps can founders in Russia seek to reduce the risks that they're facing?
Honestly? Their best bet is to leave Russia for a neighboring NATO aligned country.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#67Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
This is a case of people putting their conscience before their wallets when it really matters–a true act of bravery.
People of JetBrains, I salute you.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#68Companies should not involve in politics
I actually agree. (I say this as a person who is 100% against this invasion). However the circumstances is that the IntelliJ founders are Russian, and it’s important to point out that it is not the will of the Russian people to invade Ukraine. It is Putin.
> I say this as a person who is 100% against this invasion
Thanks for clearing that up. There are commenters on HN who have a vested interest in Russia taking eastern Ukraine.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#69Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Sadly they will have stay away from open windows now.
Nice defenestration reference. Slow clap.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#70Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. > To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business de…
A Soviet anecdote for you:
An American meets a Russian and says: "You don't have a free speech! I can go to White House and shout that Reagan is fool!" Russian answers: "Well I can go to Red Square and shout that Reagan is fool too".
As for JB: guess why they are Czech company for years now? My 2nd employer and my first step in IT career was an integrator who provided a few Russian government bodies the maintenance of their infra and developed systems as well as building datacenters for Gazprom, and a few years after the next year they had quite a big profit there was a criminal case opened and CEO was chilling for 2 years in London.