Companies should not involve in politics
Almost everything interesting involving multiple humans can be described as politics.
As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
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Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#12Companies should not involve in politics
Nope. In some cases not fighting against something is the same as supporting it. And the people behind those companies are human too, they have their own thoughts, passions, fears. I'd condemn my employer if they stood idly by a war crime literally impacting employees and their families.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#13Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
It's going to be increasingly difficult to do business there over the coming few years. I can't see this situation becoming easier any time soon.
What steps can founders in Russia seek to reduce the risks that they're facing?
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#14Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc.
> To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway.
Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business decision on their part.
JetBrains founders side with the West. Apple CEO sides with China. Saudi Arabia and Israel are our best friends. Wonder what the common denominator is.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#15Companies should not involve in politics
I actually agree.
(I say this as a person who is 100% against this invasion).
However the circumstances is that the IntelliJ founders are Russian, and it’s important to point out that it is not the will of the Russian people to invade Ukraine. It is Putin.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#16Companies should not involve in politics
Yes, I agree. I don't think this is such an inappropriate stance to have. It's up to the owner in the end, but personally I don't agree in mixing politics with business.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#17Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
I'm blown away that JetBrains hasn't been acquired by any other company yet. I've seen universally positive reviews on here about every one of their products and they're never publicly made a PR misstep to my knowledge. Shame that they're all stuck in Russia.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#18Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. > To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business de…
Money?
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#19Companies should not involve in politics
Nope. In some cases not fighting against something is the same as supporting it. And the people behind those companies are human too, they have their own thoughts, passions, fears. I'd condemn my employer if they stood idly by a war crime literally impacting employees and their families.
Kind of off topic, but Russia hasn't comitted a war crime. They've committed an act of war. Not really the same thing.
Re: As JetBrains we condemn the attacks taking place
#20Context: JetBrains' founders are Russian. They have offices in Moscow and Saint Petersburg. Free speech isn't really a thing in Russia. To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Спаси́бо, JetBrains. - Dylan Beattie
Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either. Ask the Dixie Chicks, phil donahue, etc. > To openly condemn the actions of the Russian government could have serious repercussions for them, but they did it anyway. Considering most of jetbrains business is in the West, to support the russian government would have had serious repercussions. Condemning the russian government is actually a smart business de…
> Using that logic, we don't have free speech in the US either.
Only if you are so monumentally stupid as to equate being murdered by the state with people not buying your albums, I guess.