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Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#111

Well, I have a bug open (now it is wrong closed) in 2016 about firefox in their bugtracker: "The onload event is not fired with the symbols are loaded in a svg" https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1254159 The last messages were: "Well, the standard documentation (w3c) says there is "onload" event, then Firefox does not comply the SVG standard...because the performance is important....it is sounds good." Migu…

There needs to be a SHOULDBUTWONT status.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#112
Another 'enhancement' issue from 1999, resolved in 2018 with 'wontfix'. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14328

It was about SRV records (RFC 2052, RFC 2782) that could have been used with HTTP(S) too, but no browser supported it.

2019 the IETF released the first draft for HTTPS records https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https...

2021 Firefox 92 supports HTTPS records https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/92.0/releasenotes/

Only 22 years.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#113
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. It's a shame that the firefox user base is so easy to outrage. Same with the more recent change ragrding tabs. I am using firefox for a very long time now, and I just don't see that firefox is massively going downhill so far, like many people seem to suggest. Of course I am bummed out that certain features could not be retained (such as installable PWAs on desktop). But these are just the realities of the fact t…

> Yes. It's a shame that the firefox user base is so easy to outrage. Firefox's user base was a third of all internet users a little over 10 years ago. Now it's as little as 5%. The "the users are wrong" attitude might not have been the main cause of the decline but it has been a real factor, IMO. > Same with the more recent change ragrding tabs. I am using firefox for a very long time now, and I just don't see that…

Firefox was quality wise on a higher level than IE 4, and it didn't loose any of that. IE got better over the years, made a massive step forward with Edge and now again with Chromium based Edge. And finally MS is approaching Firefox in terms of quality. What kind of funding does MS have, compared to Firefox? And still they are outsourcing the hardest part of browser development, while Mozilla is still doing it on their own, as a much smaller company. Chrome gained on Firefox, not because FF got worse. It did, because it is a real competitor, made by a company with an unfair competetive advantage (an even larger competetive advantage than MS has).

What about Opera? Did FF decline quality wise against that? Or Safari? No, of course not. FF didn't decline, it now has a real formidable competitor.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#114

We don't close bugs just because they are old. Priority on fixing bugs is some combination of their severity, the number of users affected, and the difficulty/disruption involved in fixing it. The age is not relevant.

> We don't close bugs just because they are old. I SO much appreciate that simple offhand comment. Not, it's been three days, lets use a bot to remove the bug or close what might be a very useful thread for others that get hit by it (and that can comment of a bug is still extant). Though I could see the point in a "dormant" tag, or something that let's other users know that the dev is probably not thinking about the…

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Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#115

We don't close bugs just because they are old. Priority on fixing bugs is some combination of their severity, the number of users affected, and the difficulty/disruption involved in fixing it. The age is not relevant.

Back in the 80's, I decided to include a bug list on the floppy disk that distributed my compiler. A magazine published a review of the compiler, and published the bug list as most of the review.

Thanks a lot.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#116

We don't close bugs just because they are old. Priority on fixing bugs is some combination of their severity, the number of users affected, and the difficulty/disruption involved in fixing it. The age is not relevant.

Now and then we have a new person joining the community who wants to just close all the old bugs. Have to be vigilant that that does not happen.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

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post #66

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> this is necessary for security Why? You can't read the source of this addon and evaluate whether or not it should have this access? This should be a permission that you can grant to an addon, we're not children that must at every juncture be managed so they don't burn their fingers.

Can you evaluate the source at every silent update?

Or you can not update things silently, because it's a terrible idea.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#118
post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> this is necessary for security Why? You can't read the source of this addon and evaluate whether or not it should have this access? This should be a permission that you can grant to an addon, we're not children that must at every juncture be managed so they don't burn their fingers.

Some browser users are literally children.

Children are everywhere. They shouldn't drive cars, so we don't let them. If they shouldn't manage browser plugins, we shouldn't let them. This is really incredibly immaterial to the point - which is that browsers treat everyone like they have some sort of mental handicap.

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

#119

Unrelated, but seeing Bugzilla reminded me, I was recently delighted to learn that there's been (slow but) steady progress on a 9-year-old ticket. Implement the WebMIDI API - https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=836897

Wow. I actually lived long enuf to see it! This is super good news. Test pages here: [https://versioduo.com/webmidi-test/] and for FF97: [https://github.com/versioduo/webmidi-test] ...

Re: An enhancement request I submitted to Bugzilla 15 years ago was just closed

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> Yes. It's a shame that the firefox user base is so easy to outrage. Firefox's user base was a third of all internet users a little over 10 years ago. Now it's as little as 5%. The "the users are wrong" attitude might not have been the main cause of the decline but it has been a real factor, IMO. > Same with the more recent change ragrding tabs. I am using firefox for a very long time now, and I just don't see that…

Firefox was quality wise on a higher level than IE 4, and it didn't loose any of that. IE got better over the years, made a massive step forward with Edge and now again with Chromium based Edge. And finally MS is approaching Firefox in terms of quality. What kind of funding does MS have, compared to Firefox? And still they are outsourcing the hardest part of browser development, while Mozilla is still doing it on the…

I'm not quite sure how this addresses what I wrote. Three things:

Firefox got popular when they listened to users and made a product people wanted.

They did this despite fierce competition from a huge monopolistic company with quite a locked in and anticompetitive platform.

And today they make something crazy like a half billion dollars a year from firefox, they have enough resources to make a competitive browser.

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